Archery

[Mtemtko]

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What the shit bro, in the PM you sent me why did you ask if it adds wpf, I never said it added wpf :/.

My theory is still proven.

FROM MTEMKO

After a hour of chatting with mod developers on irc i have come to this:

22:34:18 Fasader: 1pd 200wpf is worse in accuracy than 2pd 200wpf
22:35:49 Fasader: 6PD 200wpf is better in accuracy than 10pd 200wpf.

[23:04] <Mtemtko> What about this "myth" ,if the PD is higher than the bows requirement, you gain wpf?
[23:06] <Urist> No
[23:08] <Urist> there was a mathematical fuckup in trhe past i think, that allowed a wpf increase instead of reduce with very low pd

[22:43] <Urist> 1 wpf is probably the same for all pds becasue the formular cant lower wpf below 0
caps war:
[23:54] <+Mtemtko>  TELL ME WHEN DOES THE BONUS CHANGE,AT WHAT PD?
[23:56] <@Fasader> I HAVE NO IDEA AND I CANNOT BE ARSED TO TEST IT AGAIN
[00:02] <@Fasader> but I don't know the numbers
[00:02] <Mtemtko> you just arent allowed to tell,but you know
[00:02] <@Fasader> I know how to calculate it
[00:02] <@Fasader> but I don't know the numbers

I hope this explains somethings.

FROM A GOOD FRIEND

Blue: Wow
Blue: Mtemtko doesn't even know what the fuck he's talking about
Blue: It was:
Blue: if you had PD x
Blue: and your WPF was beyond the 1:1 WPF ratio
Blue: you acquired BONUS WPF
Blue: the MORE WPF YOU GAINED.
Blue: That's why Kesh was able to MACHINEGUN
Blue: RATTATATATATAT
Blue: with only PD1 or whatever
Blue: Because the lowest PD = LOL SUPERHIGH ARCHERY WPF BECAUSE YOU ONLY GET PENALIZED TO LIKE 40 WPF
Blue: AFTER THAT YOU GET BONUS WPF OUT OF NOWHERE
Blue: [23:08] <Urist> there was a mathematical fuckup in trhe past i think, that allowed a wpf increase instead of reduce with very low pd
Blue: Urist is correct.
Blue: Of course, you didn't have to have very low PD
Blue: you could do it with 5
Blue: and lol i am an agi stacking fuckhat with retirement WPF bonus
Blue: eat my shit and smile please
Blue: 22:35:49 Fasader: 6PD 200wpf is better in accuracy than 10pd 200wpf.
Blue: This I call bullshit.
Blue: Fasaderp doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
Blue: He doesn't even know how armor works.
Blue: Fuck his shit.


Also, I never said the PD over bow req gave any wpf, I NEVER mentionned that, not sure where you're getting that.

I meant PD over bow req giving accuracy not wpf, i looked at the two as if they were same-so you are correct.
About fasaderp, just a small hint- he is the mod developer.

[Patricia]

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I meant PD over bow req giving accuracy not wpf, i looked at the two as if they were same-so you are correct.
About fasaderp, just a small hint- he is the mod developer.

He still doesn't know how armor works, hell, Canary has LOGS of fasaderp saying himself he has no fucking clue how armor works.

[Mtemtko]

He still doesn't know how armor works, hell, Canary has LOGS of fasaderp saying himself he has no fucking clue how armor works.

Well i dont know about the armor thing, but after talking to cmpx and urist they both said that they arent sure about how the algorythm works so they pointed me to fasader.
The only one else that knows for sure is chadz.. but good luck getting answers from him

[Patricia]

Well i dont know about the armor thing, but after talking to cmpx and urist they both said that they arent sure about how the algorythm works so they pointed me to fasader.
The only one else that knows for sure is chadz.. but good luck getting answers from him

Apparently no one knows the game mechanics properly, which is why some players are doing tests, for exemple gafferjack did a full WM build (up to 210 ish prof) just to test how much points you needed to up your prof past a certain number, he also did the PD increasing accuracy test, and he's currently in the process of testing WM with armor.

[Mtemtko]

Apparently no one knows the game mechanics properly

Well that is partly wrong- some stuff is hardcoded for example PD always increases WPF but in CRPG the WPF is decreased enough for it to be in minus.
the developers themselves made the mechanics and have certain formulas to find out (afterall ,how do you think they changed so many stat effects?)

[Patricia]

Yeah but even then, like I said I have logs of fasaderp saying he doesn't know the game mechanics of a game he's part of, he's also an asshat.

[Mtemtko]

Yeah but even then, like I said I have logs of fasaderp saying he doesn't know the game mechanics of a game he's part of, he's also an asshat.

Well you could also assume the fact he didn't want to tell you guys the info, afterall.. some of it is meant to stay a secret.

[Patricia]

Well you could also assume the fact he didn't want to tell you guys the info, afterall.. some of it is meant to stay a secret.

I'm fine with not being told the infos, but he blatantly said he had no idea how the armors worked.

And with the dev team this game has, I wouldn't be surprised if that was true.

[Mtemtko]

I'm fine with not being told the infos, but he blatantly said he had no idea how the armors worked.

And with the dev team this game has, I wouldn't be surprised if that was true.

I asked him the precise number that changed wpf bonus from plus to minus (the 200wpf 6pd>10pd 200wpf   200wpf 2pd>200wpf 3pd thing)
he was saying he doesnt know for a while,then he said he knows how to get the number with a formula but couldnt be bothered.

[Patricia]

I asked him the precise number that changed wpf bonus from plus to minus (the 200wpf 6pd>10pd 200wpf   200wpf 2pd>200wpf 3pd thing)
he was saying he doesnt know for a while,then he said he knows how to get the number with a formula but couldnt be bothered.

Exactly, so it shows that he doesn't know how shit work unless he actually bother checking except he's too lazy to.

[RagnarLodbroke]

What the shit bro, in the PM you sent me why did you ask if it adds wpf, I never said it added wpf :/.

My theory is still proven.

FROM MTEMKO

After a hour of chatting with mod developers on irc i have come to this:

22:34:18 Fasader: 1pd 200wpf is worse in accuracy than 2pd 200wpf
22:35:49 Fasader: 6PD 200wpf is better in accuracy than 10pd 200wpf.

[23:04] <Mtemtko> What about this "myth" ,if the PD is higher than the bows requirement, you gain wpf?
[23:06] <Urist> No
[23:08] <Urist> there was a mathematical fuckup in trhe past i think, that allowed a wpf increase instead of reduce with very low pd

[22:43] <Urist> 1 wpf is probably the same for all pds becasue the formular cant lower wpf below 0
caps war:
[23:54] <+Mtemtko>  TELL ME WHEN DOES THE BONUS CHANGE,AT WHAT PD?
[23:56] <@Fasader> I HAVE NO IDEA AND I CANNOT BE ARSED TO TEST IT AGAIN
[00:02] <@Fasader> but I don't know the numbers
[00:02] <Mtemtko> you just arent allowed to tell,but you know
[00:02] <@Fasader> I know how to calculate it
[00:02] <@Fasader> but I don't know the numbers

I hope this explains somethings.

FROM A GOOD FRIEND

Blue: Wow
Blue: Mtemtko doesn't even know what the fuck he's talking about
Blue: It was:
Blue: if you had PD x
Blue: and your WPF was beyond the 1:1 WPF ratio
Blue: you acquired BONUS WPF
Blue: the MORE WPF YOU GAINED.
Blue: That's why Kesh was able to MACHINEGUN
Blue: RATTATATATATAT
Blue: with only PD1 or whatever
Blue: Because the lowest PD = LOL SUPERHIGH ARCHERY WPF BECAUSE YOU ONLY GET PENALIZED TO LIKE 40 WPF
Blue: AFTER THAT YOU GET BONUS WPF OUT OF NOWHERE
Blue: [23:08] <Urist> there was a mathematical fuckup in trhe past i think, that allowed a wpf increase instead of reduce with very low pd
Blue: Urist is correct.
Blue: Of course, you didn't have to have very low PD
Blue: you could do it with 5
Blue: and lol i am an agi stacking fuckhat with retirement WPF bonus
Blue: eat my shit and smile please
Blue: 22:35:49 Fasader: 6PD 200wpf is better in accuracy than 10pd 200wpf.
Blue: This I call bullshit.
Blue: Fasaderp doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
Blue: He doesn't even know how armor works.
Blue: Fuck his shit.


Also, I never said the PD over bow req gave any wpf, I NEVER mentionned that, not sure where you're getting that.

Blue is a color, not a name, so he cant be a friend!!

Unless he is ur imaginary friend?

If u stack PD u get inaccurate, if u stack more points in WM, then WPF u get more accurate...

[Patricia]

Blue is a color, not a name, so he cant be a friend!!

Unless he is ur imaginary friend?

If u stack PD u get inaccurate, if u stack more points in WM, then WPF u get more accurate...

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,876.msg11499.html#msg11499

Explain your lack of game mechanics knowledge Ragnar. EXPLAIN.

[RagnarLodbroke]

http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,876.msg11499.html#msg11499

Explain your lack of game mechanics knowledge Ragnar. EXPLAIN.

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[Patricia]

Thanks for proving my point that you don't actually know anything  .

I AM FURIOUS.

[RagnarLodbroke]

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