MrShovelFace's [imaginary] Automated Siege Timer

[MrShovelFace]

{Plans for siege autobalance}

For people with short attention spans:
Attackers win, timer for the map is set lower
But
Defenders win, timer for the map is set higher


Foreword (skip this if you don't like my words of fore or my bad grammar and misspeling)

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Siege autobalance, unlike the player autobalance, is a theoretical system that can theoretically never fail but under THE MOST INSANE CONDITIONS. Like say a castle surrounded by lava with man eating sharks and sailing chimps that throw corrosive shit at your head because they have 4000 proficiency in SUCKING!!! (thats right throwers).

The basic function of this system is to increment (or decrement if thats a word) the timer based on who wins

Should the attackers win a game on a given (castle) map the timer is incremented by a varied amount (see bottom for my ideas on how much)

Should the defenders win a game on a given (castle) map the timer is decremented by a varied amount (see bottom for my ideas on how much)


Once the timer is changed the value of the castle and the up-to-date timer is sent to the website and stored for later use

The standard deviation (increment of decrement per loss) would be based on the attacker to defender wins ratio.
(D:10 A:20 for A win timer goes down by 1.5 for the opposite it goes up by .5)
This is so that it is easier to find the sweet spot and not allow it to go up or down too much due to random wins and losses

[Engine]

I'm with ya, dude. It has the benefit of somewhat addressing the hideously unbalanced Siege maps we have.

[John]

Yeah, it's a bit too difficult to maintain a multiplier on the siege servers considering how the autobalance shuffles the teams so frequently.

(Too difficult at least compared to battle)

[Neostralie]

Great Idea.

Some nices castles would be playable.

[MrShovelFace]

I bumped this idea because I legitimately think it has merit over the flood of nerf X posts

[Amoebe]

For me this seems more like autoimbalance. If i win as attacker, next round i get even more time to take the castle, so i'll probably win again (assuming team strength didn't  change too much). Shouldn't a balancer make it more challenging for the winning team to give the loosing team a better chance?

[Nemeth]

For me this seems more like autoimbalance. If i win as attacker, next round i get even more time to take the castle, so i'll probably win again (assuming team strength didn't  change too much). Shouldn't a balancer make it more challenging for the winning team to give the loosing team a better chance?

That's what strikes me as the main point of this idea as well. How is it balanced? Attackers win, next round they have even more time to take the castle. I fail to see the logic in that.

[Neostralie]

So if the Attackers win, they get more time to win again?
And if the Defender win, the Attackers has les time to win?

Fucking bad idea.

Start by a logical autobalance with only switch at the start of the castle map and not every rounds.

[IG_Saint]

Disagree with the OPs idea, see last 2 post as to why, but it does bring up the issue with siege auto balance. The siege auto balance is different from the battle one, this was done because the siege maps were all unbalanced as hell and ended with the attackers winning 3-0 most of the time. By now however most siege maps are rather balanced, so maybe a change to the autobalance is due.

[Seawied]

Good idea, but would require some tricky coding. I would be pretty impressed if they could add this as a server option.

[MrShovelFace]

jeeze relax guys. I got the two backwards in the shortened version  and you cant seem to realize that

if you read the body paragraph you may have been enlightened 



Rephrased:

attackers win : timer goes up

Defenders Win : time goes down


Timer status are saved
fine tuning finds the average time required but that shit isnt worth talking about cuz i just finished my statistics project and i dont want to think about that any more!

[Neostralie]

To ensure the good timer for a siege map, you must remove time when Attacker win and add time when Deffenders wins.