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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #60 on: November 03, 2011, 04:14:26 am »
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you forgot about how annoying OP it is in the hands of an s key spam hero!  8-)

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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #61 on: November 03, 2011, 04:25:30 am »
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you forgot about how annoying OP it is in the hands of an s key spam hero!  8-)

nah anyone that s keys sucks at this game and is more annoying than people that use glitchy weapon animation to win, even though they have no choice, it's annoying.
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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #62 on: November 03, 2011, 06:33:51 am »
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hmm I would say Dasty  :mad:

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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #63 on: November 03, 2011, 07:31:48 am »
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The lolhammer/Great Maul.

It's the only fantasy, World of Warcraft weapon in WB ( besides to some degree the 2h cleaver, which also hasn't any historical equivalent, at least the weapon it is based on looks nothing like it ), has blockcrush which only requires the wielder to spam overheads spiced up with the occasional block, no meta game, near no skill required ( especially if wearing heavy armor + STR build ).
Yes, it is somewhat slow but block is still near instantaneous and all you really need to do is make the same attack over and over and over and people can't even block you, and if you're a half-decent facehugger they'll have a lot of trouble sidestepping before that big hitbox connects ( even sometimes when it first looks as if it hasn't ).

Blockcrush is a somewhat alien mechanism that was suddenly thrown into the block/attack game during beta ( where it earned its 'lol' prefix ) and though on weapons with a smaller chance of crushing through it isn't that big of a deal the lolhammer always were unbalanced in this regard. I'm seriously puzzled why the cRPG dev team have not corrected this now that they've properly balanced so much else in the game, like ranged, lolstabs, 1h feinting speed etc. I guess it requires that we see it abused a lot which for some reason fortunately isn't the case yet in cRPG ( compared to Native MP where they are used to ridiculous effect every time Rhodoks is in the field ).
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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #64 on: November 03, 2011, 07:58:17 am »
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( besides to some degree the 2h cleaver, which also hasn't any historical equivalent, at least the weapon it is based on looks nothing like it

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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #65 on: November 03, 2011, 08:00:41 am »
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war spear for sure.

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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #66 on: November 03, 2011, 08:05:34 am »
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1h feinting speed

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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #67 on: November 03, 2011, 08:23:30 am »
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The Glaive. Seriously, fuck this weapon. The swing speed, radius and length on this weapon are seriously just as bad as any 2hander i've ever played against. The polestun is just an added bonus.
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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #68 on: November 03, 2011, 08:41:37 am »
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Yes, I'm fully aware of the Maciejowski Bible illustrations of the weapon but pray tell me on which of those pictures you see the 2h monstrosity that is in the game ?  :wink: The in-game model has a much too long blade and the handle is much too short, the 1h variants are pretty spot on, however.


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The feinting speed of 1handers have been decreased substantially, and/or otherwise changed to be less fluid. This might be related to a greater armor weight contra speed penalty, I don't know, it's been some time since I played a shielder in this module.
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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #69 on: November 03, 2011, 08:44:42 am »
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Long spear

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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #70 on: November 03, 2011, 01:48:01 pm »
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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #71 on: November 03, 2011, 02:11:19 pm »
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Nope, wrong guy to use that old pseudo-argument on. I actually like challenges and have no special problems getting killed a lot by the lolhammer ( been killed by it perhaps 4 times at tops the last month ), what kills me usually is long polearms in groups and ranged, and I'm not the kind of person to criticize things based only on finding them difficult to overcome.

What I'm really pointing out, and which you'd noticed had you paid attention to my arguments, is that the lolhammer has some pretty stupid mechanics, ramming completely the otherwise awesome WB multiple direction block and attack mini game and, again unlike all other weapons in the game, being utterly the fabrication of some TW dev's fantasy. The xbow is idiot proof too, but at least this weapon has a historical counterpart ( where it was also easy to use ) and isn't a melee weapon.
« Last Edit: November 03, 2011, 02:19:14 pm by Angantyr »

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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #72 on: November 03, 2011, 02:39:20 pm »
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Fucking long espada and its OP stab damage, buff its cut to balance it!
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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #73 on: November 03, 2011, 02:46:00 pm »
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i dont hate any wep out there.
if i start hating them they annoy me ,that gets me angry and that leads to fail.
i just think of this way : now i got killed by an archer,but if i would get killed by 2h whats the differance im dead anyway.
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Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #74 on: November 03, 2011, 02:59:54 pm »
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Weapons are fine, animations are bad.

- retarded 2H stab
- super fast polestab (especially bad when it comes to spears/pikes/lances)
- retarded 2H overhead (makes mauls incredibly annoying and almost unavoidable)
- 2H swings (spam is your friend, just spam swings like a tard and block some of the held attacks and you're gonna look like a pro...)