Warhammer

[Konrax]

I noticed while using my Warhammer that it's damage really isn't that great even with +3 and ps6 and wm7 (all in 1h).

For example I have noted many many times hitting an un-helmeted target in the head and not producing a kill. Now I'm not saying that it should 1shot everything left and right, but its rather disappointing when you hit someone in the head with a Mighty Warhammer with no helmet and they still walk around.

With the changes to armour it would appear that Warhammer has rather lost it's core use, being able to interrupt and severely damage heavily armoured targets and disrupt enemy ranks.

Since lower classes of weapons can now interrupt heavily armoured targets its no longer the ideal weapon for heavy enemies anymore. Being extremely short, and slow (not gaining bonus to speed from heirloom) its only saving grace is the higher chance of knock down (3 - 3.5 weight).

Other weapons like the Military Pick and Battle Axes produce better damage, speed, range, and still interrupt effectively (No stab I know).

I don't really know what to do to put Warhammer back into the useful weapons department so I leave it open to all.

Please post useful criticism and not just say L2P.

[Tears of Destiny]

Due to it being blunt, I thought the point of the warhammer was to kick the crap out of armored targets? If you want to kill lightly armored targets then slashing is much much better. Blunt ignores armor even more then pierce.

[Konrax]

Due to it being blunt, I thought the point of the warhammer was to kick the crap out of armored targets? If you want to kill lightly armored targets then slashing is much much better. Blunt ignores armor even more then pierce.

With the changes to armour it would appear that Warhammer has rather lost it's core use, being able to interrupt and severely damage heavily armoured targets and disrupt enemy ranks.

Most slashing weapons now interrupt heavily armoured targets too.

[SchokoSchaf]

It has knockdown. What do you want more. Almost as good as 1hit. Only more fun. That's why I'm using it.

[Cyclopsided]

imho the warhammer is amazing.
I was using it on my strength 1h character and nobody survived more than 2 hits, except for allers and equivalent 11 IF+ players.

Also if you get knockdown you instantly win the fight. Nobody can survive after being knocked down by it, I don't care who they are. The three hit combo is just too hard hitting.

[Konrax]

imho the warhammer is amazing.
I was using it on my strength 1h character and nobody survived more than 2 hits, except for allers and equivalent 11 IF+ players.

Also if you get knockdown you instantly win the fight. Nobody can survive after being knocked down by it, I don't care who they are. The three hit combo is just too hard hitting.

I thought the same thing at first, but I've been using a Mighty one since the last reset and it lost its luster for me.

[Cyclopsided]

I thought the same thing at first, but I've been using a Mighty one since the last reset and it lost its luster for me.

It is just that there are more strength leaning builds surviving more hits.
Imagine if you had a wimpy little Italian sword. They'd be taking way more hits.

[Konrax]

Speed, Length, Stab is amazing on that sword.

[Diomedes]

It is just that there are more strength leaning builds surviving more hits.
Imagine if you had a wimpy little Italian sword. They'd be taking way more hits.

I swapped my mighty warhammer for a MW italian sword in the [previous] big patch and enjoy it profusely thank you very much gooddaytoyousir.

[Cyclopsided]

I was using it as an example as probably the best well rounded 1h, and that it requires still more hits than a warhammer to kill.

[Digglez]

Just like tears said, you are better off using a slashing weapon against anyone in 50 or less armor.  Warhammer is either a tincan killer or support weapon when you have teammates around.  I probably get 15-25% knockdown rate when using it, giving me and my teammates LOTS of extra free hits against downed opponents.

[Konrax]

Just like tears said, you are better off using a slashing weapon against anyone in 50 or less armor.  Warhammer is either a tincan killer or support weapon when you have teammates around.  I probably get 15-25% knockdown rate when using it, giving me and my teammates LOTS of extra free hits against downed opponents.

How is it a tincan killer now?

Every weapon interrupts, the allure of the Warhammer originally was that it lands a hit every time, and it could knock down an enemy.

Now its just a super short, low (but consistent!) damage weapon that may allow you to get an extra free swing, that is slow as F.

After using it for months I find even unheirloomed weapons are better than the Warhammer, which for sake of realism should hurt quite a bit with or without armour, especially in the face.

[Digglez]

How is it a tincan killer now?

Every weapon interrupts, the allure of the Warhammer originally was that it lands a hit every time, and it could knock down an enemy.

Now its just a super short, low (but consistent!) damage weapon that may allow you to get an extra free swing, that is slow as F.

After using it for months I find even unheirloomed weapons are better than the Warhammer, which for sake of realism should hurt quite a bit with or without armour, especially in the face.

Run of the Mill Tincan 24 STR, 8 IF, 75 HP Transitional Plate: 53 armor Plate Mittens: 10 Armor Total Body Armor: 63	STR: 18 PS: 6 WPF: 125 Warhammer: 31b Avg Dmg: 18 High Dmg: 29 Low: Dmg: 7 Average hits required to kill target: 5	STR: 18 PS: 6 WPF: 125 Elite Scimitar: 31c Avg Dmg: 10 High Dmg: 21 Low: Dmg: 0 Average hits to kill target:  8
Heirloomed Tincan 24 STR, 8 IF, 75 HP Total Body Armor: 63+14= 77 armor	STR: 18 PS: 6 WPF: 125 Warhammer: 31b Avg Dmg: 12 High Dmg: 23 Low: Dmg: 0 Average hits to kill target:  7	STR: 18 PS: 6 WPF: 125 Elite Scimitar: 31c Avg Dmg: 7 High Dmg: 14 Low: Dmg: 0 Average hits to kill target:  11

so besides doing close to double the dmg of an equivilent cut weapon, I dont know about you but I dont have all day to try and hit a tincan 8-11 times with a cut weapon to kill them.  They will have friends show up before that.

[Xant]

Warhammer is amazing, had fun using it without a shield when I was 1h.

[Tzar]

TBH i prefer the Military Hammer alot more since.

A. it doenst have a retarded stab animation that fucks up your hammertime fun...

B. Its longer it may not sound like alot on paper but it shows.