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Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« on: September 24, 2011, 09:11:29 am »
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Edit: the stuff in here is somewhat outdated, please refer to page 2:
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,16640.msg237857.html#msg237857

So, strat is coming dangerously close (for real), and with testing we've realised a problem.

We currently have 3 different kinds of maps:
The old one: http://c-rpg.net/calradia.jpg
The nice one: http://c-rpg.net/img/strategus/calradia_4.jpg
the Geo-Type one: http://c-rpg.net/geo_calradia.png

So what's the problem:
the "real" one is the geo one, because this one is the one the game reads to determine your movement speed, your viewing distance, your hiding possibilities etc. This is all nice and dandy, but...

the player should be able to see the same thing :P The problem with the old map is that it's
a. fugly, and
b. you cannot see the terrain properly, and
c. it's too small.

the problem with the new map, while looking awesome, is that it's
a. not exactly the right dimension,
b. it has a more isometric view to it, which makes it really really hard to spot what terrain you are walking on,
c. if you put the geo map over it, you can see the landscapes differ a bit - enough to cause headaches when moving around.

so, this is where someone of you could come into the equasion, because I know we have a lot of awesome artists in here. I, myself, am not even close to being an artist, so I have no idea if this is at all possible or it would take forever.

The goal is to
a. take the geo map,
b. resize it by exactly 400% (5900px x 4176px) (because that is the maximum zoom, and could possibly become the new standard zoom)
c. make it pretty, with whatever trick necessary,
d. while keeping it clear where what terrain is. needless to say, it's still not required to be pixel perfect, but it should give more of an idea than the 2 real maps we have now.

You can either use the nice looking map as a basis, or just replace the colors with better looking textures, or.. I have no idea, as I said, I don't know a lot about that stuff :P But you're free to do what looks good and makes sense.

In the end, I will either pick a clear winner, or do a vote, undecided on that :P

I know an heirloom isn't that much, but maybe someone wants to step in to save the rest of the cRGP community from an eyecancer :P

If I've missed someting completely, feel free to correct me.

Edit: if necessary, I can also provide you with a gimp .xcf file that has the geo map in layers.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2011, 06:41:01 am by chadz »

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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2011, 10:20:20 am »
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Spent a great deal of time on this and i think it looks much better!! :mrgreen:

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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2011, 10:22:00 am »
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I think this is worth to lose a loom point.

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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2011, 10:36:38 am »
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I think this is worth to lose a loom point.

Dont remember reading that..
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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2011, 11:00:47 am »
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I vote losing one, aswell thats copy right infringement in the one i already made
« Last Edit: September 24, 2011, 11:01:58 am by VVarlord »

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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2011, 11:43:02 am »
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putting the geo over the old one is a perfect fit
(click to show/hide)

putting geo over new(cool one) doesnt fit perfectly, there are some mountain, forest etc elements missing(indicated in black circles)
(click to show/hide)
just to make sure, Are these parts the main problem?
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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2011, 12:04:00 pm »
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Just to make it sure, is manipulating the "nice one" so that it's accurate a valid option, or would there be copyright issues or something?

Doesn't matter much though, since I bet there's gonna be someone who has tons more artistic skills than I do and that person will just draw a map that just blows everyones minds off.

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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2011, 02:08:15 pm »
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That shouldn't be an issue, copyright is at TW, similar to the game.

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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2011, 03:39:47 pm »
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I couldn't help but notice that it appears there is only one bridge on the map? The bridges are denoted by a pink box right? Why is there only one around Suno and none anywhere else?
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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2011, 06:20:52 pm »
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geography *squeeeeeeeeeeee*
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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2011, 06:25:54 pm »
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putting the geo over the old one is a perfect fit
(click to show/hide)

this is actually what we planned on doing if no one would be willing/able to provide a better version of the map. edit colors a bit, but i guess it would do the trick.

The problem is that the version gets really ugly when you zoom to the size mentioned in the OP. That's why it would be great if someone could come up with a way that makes the pic look cool in that fat resolution.

About the problem on the 2nd map: well, not only those parts - every single part where there is a sea and you can move on, or the other way around, will cause rage - understandable rage. That's why we can't use this one. Imagine moving around on the map, and suddenly you are locked. You don't know in what direction you can move, etc etc.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2011, 06:30:38 pm by chadz »

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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2011, 06:30:13 pm »
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I could try myself a shot at it. Starting by making the Geo map a smooth Vector. It'll probably take me two days of none-stop work.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2011, 06:52:18 pm by The_Angle »
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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2011, 06:47:54 pm »
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hey im also into it
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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2011, 06:54:26 pm »
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hm, i could do it - but i got this other stuff to do, you know :lol:
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Re: Artistic talents - win a loom point!
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2011, 08:12:45 pm »
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Edit: if necessary, I can also provide you with a gimp .xcf file that has the geo map in layers.

yes provide us with that, it would be usefull
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