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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #120 on: September 04, 2011, 05:19:35 pm »
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as a crossbowman, cavalry is my greatest enemy, and i think they are fine the way they are
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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #121 on: September 04, 2011, 05:19:56 pm »
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Except mine, because I'm usually in the flanks with a katana unable to pike, slash or shoot due to various reasons.

But I can't complain too much.

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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #122 on: September 04, 2011, 05:21:42 pm »
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Give us back sheathable pike and this whole issue would go away again, though. Just sayin'  :wink:

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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #123 on: September 04, 2011, 05:22:24 pm »
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We should go back to 1 riding per 6 agi.Cav was very balanced back then when you needed an agi build to ride heavy horses.
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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #124 on: September 04, 2011, 05:24:41 pm »
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You dont need good ping to go rape NA noobs.

Dont belieave me? go try out for yourself its easy mode and if u need a good laugh go on their duel server 9/10 cant block or feint thx to being str stackers.

Their battle servers are equally hard. With 230 ping I and Goretooth kept swapping places as the 1st on scoreboard.
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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #125 on: September 04, 2011, 05:24:57 pm »
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We should go back to 1 riding per 6 agi.Cav was very balanced back then when you needed an agi build to ride heavy horses.

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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #126 on: September 04, 2011, 05:28:57 pm »
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and how should people ride mamlks and plated chragrers? with 36 agi ?
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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #127 on: September 04, 2011, 05:31:20 pm »
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and how should people ride mamlks and plated chragrers? with 36 agi ?

reduce riding skill required to 5?

there is no horse for 1 riding, make sumpter 1, all light horses 2-3 and heavy 4-5 ?

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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #128 on: September 04, 2011, 05:32:32 pm »
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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #129 on: September 04, 2011, 05:36:10 pm »
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I think "idea number one" is good.
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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #130 on: September 04, 2011, 05:36:28 pm »
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Cavalry play is dependent on how unaware / distracted their targets are at the point of attack. Many are still moaning because good cav is getting high kd's claiming that it is because cav is easy mode and overpowered... No its just 90% of footmen on a public battle server have low awareness or are currently engaged in a melee.

Cav has been nerfed so many times  now and nothing has changed, if you still find them killing you in the open when you are unengaged, its cause you are blind / deaf / slow.
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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #131 on: September 04, 2011, 05:37:45 pm »
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Cavalry play is dependent on how unaware / distracted their targets are at the point of attack. Many are still moaning because good cav is getting high kd's claiming that it is because cav is easy mode and overpowered... No its just 90% of footmen on a public battle server have low awareness or are currently engaged in a melee.

Cav has been nerfed so many times  now and nothing has changed, if you still find them killing you in the open when you are unengaged, its cause you are blind / deaf / slow.

how to counter bumpslash? how to counter 3-4 cav trainraping you?

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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #132 on: September 04, 2011, 05:38:03 pm »
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Which is ridiculous, cause why would you want to sit on a horse and stab, when there's an awesome, hard to master fighting system in place for infantry.

The thing is, cav has maneuverability, they will always continue to get the drop on those that are unaware or those already in a fight, without endangering themselves much. Which causes my respect for the scores of cavalry to be really low. If I see a footman get 20/1 I'm amazed at his skill, when a horseman gets that, its no big deal.

The best way too nerf cav, would be giving them more noise, and implement a decent sound engine. But thats not going to happen.

Second best option would be what Thomek suggested. Nerfing maneuverability significantly and buffing horses hp. So they have to think ahead, although giving a little more room for mistakes.

The problem is if you nerf manoeuvrability and buff HP you wouldn't change anything. Cav would still backstab unaware players till their heart's content, you would simply give them more health to do it with. The manoeuvre isn't that big a factor against the unaware. It's more useful in avoiding pikes ect. We'd have more nerf cav threads within a couple of weeks of a patch. Instead this time, no one would have any 'solutions' .

Pls great NA, teach puny EU how2anticav.

In all fairness, EU are awful at anti-cav. I don't know how NA are...but I'm willing to let them teach EU how to do it.

how to counter bumpslash? how to counter 3-4 cav trainraping you?

It's actually quite easy. Lancers have a strike pattern. If their are 3-4 bumping, the likelihood is they will get in each others way. All you have to do is know exactly when to swerve to the side of a lance and horse. Str chars are pretty screwed from this pov. But for agi chars it's easy if you know how lancers work. It's harder for 1h cav...but still doable. Though chances are you can get a hit on a 1h horse more easily.

We should go back to 1 riding per 6 agi.Cav was very balanced back then when you needed an agi build to ride heavy horses.

You'd have to buff lances again. The greater portion of lancers damage is due to the speed bonus. If you took away that, then glancing/small amounts of damage even on head shots would occur.
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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #133 on: September 04, 2011, 05:42:51 pm »
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Form game around player base skill - break game.
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Re: Cavalry is clearly way overpowered
« Reply #134 on: September 04, 2011, 05:43:47 pm »
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how to counter bumpslash? how to counter 3-4 cav trainraping you?

Dont get caught in a position where 3-4 cav have you to themselves :P you wouldnt allow 3-4 infantry surround you so why cav :S

edit : as to the bumpslash A) stop the cav with a polearm B) sidestep works with agility builds C) dont get caught on your own and stick with teammates

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« Last Edit: September 04, 2011, 05:45:18 pm by Lorenzo_of_Iberia »
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