Op Xbows!

[Spawny]

this might not actually be such a bad idea, depends on what most xbow users have for str now though.

15 tops.

15/24 build is the cookie cutter for arbalest users. Leaves room for 5 PS, 8 athletics and 8 WM. Get 160 wpf in crossbows and the rest in 2h combined with a mace (good cost/performance ratio).

[[ptx]]

Higher STR requirements, arbalest should be at least 21 STR

Best suggestion yet.

[Erasmas]

Guys, the arbalest now requires 2 slots, 15 str, is expensive like hell, slow like hell, can be damaged in-game (no other weapon can), has substantial lag while shooting, was nerfed several times, numbers of xbowman dropped rapidly, and you are still complaining?

It's strange that we have not seen a post like "Just remove crossobws and  bows from the game entirely, that would resolve the problem" yet...

edit... and to shoot it with reasonable accuracy you need to invest a lot WPF, as it is the xbow with the biggest crosshair anyway... you won't see xbowman with arabalest and 1h+shield anymore.
 

[Brutal]

A high strength requirement is a good idea. Xbow is the only ranged that can have max accuracy and max damage at the same time 

[bosco]

Higher STR requirements, arbalest should be at least 21 STR

So 2h and polearms can continue using it as shotgun? No thanks.

wpf requirements are the only way to prevent it from being used that way.

edit: 'It' refers to crossbows in general, Arbalest is too big to be used as shotgun anyway.

[Hotpokka]

you won't see xbowman with arabalest and 1h+shield anymore.

Your signature definitely reflects this

[Eddy]

yea i would be too for higher str requirements
one in my clan has an full str build (33str 3agi)
and 11 if and he is getting too 1shoted in low ( light kuyak or something like that)
by arlebests so i would say the arlebest is op

[bosco]

What you leave out is the distance he's getting shot from... most of my shots with MW Arbalest and +2 Steel bolts aren't one shot kills, often even if I stand 5 meters in front of someone (not counting headshots). 

[Eddy]

from an middle distance moustly on town maps

[Greziz]

I can safely say I prefer a team of xbow men vs a team of longbow men. Long bowmen can scatter like roaches while firing. Xbow men can scatter and not fire. This is all based on whether or not the xbow men are skilled players because real good xbow men when you get close will assault you with their melee archers will just flee like the little skill less girls they are.

[I believe the longbow is the superior ranged weapon]

However I prefer Xbow men because they tend to have more testicular fortitude and man up to help their team in melee support when needed.

[Eddy]

tss i prefer good longbow mans and 2handed guys with normal xbows before arbelest mans but just cause the only archer in our clan 2 shots every body and he is too an help in melee and the 2handed + xbow guys can 1 shot with normal xbows and are an better help in meele than an arlebest guy

[Leshma]

this might not actually be such a bad idea, depends on what most xbow users have for str now though.

They have 15 str, most of them. That way they can get high WPF to put into Xbow and sidearm. Making Arbalest 21 str weapon would totally fuck up most of Arbalest users.

[[ptx]]

So, they wouldn't have full ranged capability, whilst also having very good kiting AND melee capability? Sounds like a solution.

[Eddy]

Making Arbalest 21 str weapon would totally fuck up most of Arbalest users.

No
when an arbelest would have 21 str you could make  21/18  with that build you can get over 140 in xbow an rest melee would be too accurate and 90 in melee would be to enough
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 18
    Hit points: 64

    Skills to attributes: 8

    Ironflesh: 4
    Power Strike: 7
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 6

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 90
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 140
    Throwing: 1

this would be too possible
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

    Strength: 21
    Agility: 21
    Hit points: 56

    Skills to attributes: 14

    Ironflesh: 0
    Power Strike: 4
    Shield: 0
    Athletics: 6
    Riding: 0
    Horse Archery: 0
    Power Draw: 0
    Power Throw: 0
    Weapon Master: 7

    One Handed: 1
    Two Handed: 91
    Polearm: 1
    Archery: 1
    Crossbow: 150
    Throwing: 1

[bosco]

Arbalest with 160 wpf is still not as accurate as it used to be, at the usual distance you engage archers at, you can fit two of them into the crosshair.

So please refrain from making assumptions.