NA Rules update

[Tears of Destiny]

Alright, then I'm assuming Roy Morrison was referring to this build.

TearsofDestiny, you say that this has been deemed acceptable... by the dev team as well?  Any links to this issue being raised before?

I think it's kind of silly - but if the dev team doesn't have a problem with this built. Then so be it.

I thought the item itself was invincible, like the certain sword used to be invisible

Oh, I think it was on IRC that the devs talked about it being ok after some debate (That may have been started by three people using STF to roll that build and then get kicked by a certain admin thinking they were cheating). This issue certainly was raised before, but I think it was deemed ok as core game mechanics allow it to happen, and let us face it, 1PS melee builds are not that scary as 39 AGI gimps you so this is hardly unbalanced. Spin spear fighting or stepping around the guy or crushthrough or even kicks can defeat it.

As for the last sentence, there is a bug that if you break a certain shield yadda yadda yadda yadda then you have an unbreakable shield, which is cheating due to being a glitch possible even with 0 shield skill.

[Joxer]

I honestly didn't believe that common sense things like glitching through walls needed to be written down. 

As far as i'm concerned, glitching and abusing game mechanics has always been punishable. The admins just wanted something written and clear.

If that's what certain players need to stop gaining unfair advantages over the other team, so be it.

Keep your trolling for someone who cares.

It is worth noting that regardless of whose server you are playing on and what rules the server has, chadz has made it very clear that on any cRPG server exploiting and deliberately Glitching is against the rules.

Wtf? chadz said quite clearly about glitching that if it's in the game it's ok.
Also how does glitching give anyone advantage if anyone else can do it too?

[Tears of Destiny]

Wtf? chadz said quite clearly about glitching that if it's in the game it's ok.
Also how does glitching give anyone advantage if anyone else can do it too?

Then splain please why people who use the unbreakable shield glitch by tinkering with breaking practice shields etc is not allowed?

Where did he say it was ok?

In the rules it says glitching is allowed but being an asshat is not and "No exploiting of any kind
NOT OK: Using a bug to gain undeserved benefits"

Stacking ladders in the air and glitching past castle defenses sounds to me a lot like "Exploiting" and not a "harmless" glitch. I do believe this counts towards being an asshat?

EDIT: If you need a clear example, look at the invisible sword glitch that was not allowed since it was considered an "exploit" due to giving you an undeserved advantage.

[DrKronic]

Yup, I made a STF build with 3/39 1 PS 3 WM 13 SHL and funny enough with 39 AGI you don't need athletics. 13 shield give 8%*13skill=104 damage resistance to the shield.

Use the 105 speed shield and you only have to think about blocking and be invulnerable to those who don't know how to kick or use proper foot work. Use the Nordic Short Sword for main combat or the 114 speed dagger for quick irritating papercuts and you can slowly kill someone via headshots, or more commonly just tie up a great axe user and laugh manically.

Ultimate support build, though avoid everything with crushthrough....

hey don't worry you'er in the crushthrough thread(all over the place from the beginning) arguing for crush through to be removed from the remaining weapons as it interferes with player skill, like having 1 guy in your clan play an acceptable invincible shield build with 3 str 39 agi, which is totally a fair thing to do, but weapons going through that block, no MAN THATS UNFAIR lol

Tears=best lobbyist/con artist in the game

[Earthdforce]

Uhh..unless something's changed recently, Tears isn't in a clan..

[Tears of Destiny]

hey don't worry you'er in the crushthrough thread(all over the place from the beginning) arguing for crush through to be removed from the remaining weapons as it interferes with player skill, like having 1 guy in your clan play an acceptable invincible shield build with 3 str 39 agi, which is totally a fair thing to do, but weapons going through that block, no MAN THATS UNFAIR lol

Tears=best lobbyist/con artist in the game

Uhh..unless something's changed recently, Tears isn't in a clan..

This...

Also... I never said that I am lobbying for the removal of crush through, i just said that I don't like random chances for anything.

I like crush through as it is a natural counter to turtle shielders... Honestly as long as crush through remains on slow weapons I am fine.

I can understand calling me a lobbyist, but why a con artist?

[Duster]

Wtf? chadz said quite clearly about glitching that if it's in the game it's ok.
Also how does glitching give anyone advantage if anyone else can do it too?

Please stop posting.

[Joxer]

 

[nuffen]

Using the map is ok, exploiting stuff that is not supposed to work is not ok.

[Tears of Destiny]

Using the map is ok, exploiting stuff that is not supposed to work is not ok.

Out of curiosity how would you define people using ladders to "glitch" through the floor and into a room bypassing defenses on siege? Is that considered using a map? (Specifically, I am talking about throwing a ladder underneath something, then walking up the ladder and through the "roof" above you so that you pop up into the room. A lot of floors don't act as solids when approached from underneath)

[nuffen]

If the enemy can reach em, its ok. if the enemy cant, BANHAMMER!

[Tears of Destiny]

If the enemy can reach em, its ok. if the enemy cant, BANHAMMER!

Thank you! <3

[Patricia]

Me, Aldryk and Gafferjack were the 3 shielders that tried the 13 shield skills and got banned for "Cheating/Hacking/Exploiting", after some talk with Ecko and the Dev Team it was deemed ok and intended.

[nuffen]

yes, having 13 shield skills is ok. But you get so nerfed, you sucks at everything really, wouldnt recommend going 13 shield.

[Patricia]

13 Shield skill with the shortened spear is actually the ultimate support build, I've once took on like 8 players with another shielder and just because I could stagger them and have half of them whacking at my arena shield hoping for a free kill they all died and we won.