Horse Archer vs Horse Xbow

[Mephisto]

Hor a long time now i've been thinking about it but still, even up to now i cant come up with a solution, which is better: HA or HX?

At fitst it might seem that xbows are better due to no skills necesary to use them but the fire rate in comparison to bows is fairly poor.
Xbows also should be more accurate as they get no wpf decrease from the PD like bows do.
On the other hand bows get a realy nice dmg boost from the PD.

Or maybe both of these suck?

Waiting for your opinion and advise.

Cheers

[Murchad]

i think it is more a matter of personal preferance.

andvantages of xbow:
pierce dmg makes it good against armor
less skills needed
more accurate

advantages of horsearcher:
faster rate of fire

[Siboire]

Huh PD has nothing to do with xbows... the only requirement is strenght and on horse u can only use light xbow which has a req of 7 str.

In resumé (tried both ones HX and HA):

HA:
pros:
 -higher fire rate = more damage over time
cons:
 -Needs more str = less agi = less HA skill = bigger penalty to accuracy AND damage while riding a horse + cut (damage type) so heavy armored guys will laugh at u.
 -less agi (need more str) so less riding so slower and less maneuver on horse.
 -takes a really long time before you do decent (lots of lvls and grinding while feeling nearly useless) but if ur good enough, it can be really worth it.

HX:
pros:
- slower firing rate but a lot higher damage per shot (pierce type of damage + higher HA skill)
- is fun to play really early (around lvl 15 you can do decent cuz as soon as u have 7 str, u can start pumping agi)
- you can get super freaking fast and maneuver on horse (can easily reach 10 riding!)
- with more agi you can get more HA skill (5 HA) so almost no penalty to damage and accuracy
- low upkeep even with a good horse like the courser

Cons:
 -fragile (no ironflesh and only 7 str means not much is needed, while running full speed on horse, to kill you.)
- slower reloading speed than on foot so u need to put all ur wpf in xbow to get a decent reloading speed.
- slow firing speed (of course)
- with that low str, u cant use any good weapon or armor.
- once ur dehorsed ur more than screwed (cant do anything beside running pretty much)

I need to say though that i really like both but my favorite for a funny yet quite effective horse build is the HX, if used correctly, it can be really effective. A couple of times in a single day of playing session i managed to get good k/d ratios a lot of times with it and even annoy some good cavs and infantry 2-handers ;)

If u have any other questions regarding HA or HX or about xbows, feel free to PM me

[Dravic]

At first:

It is HORSE CROSSBOWMAN, not HORSE XBOW.

HC!


Ok, now:

I will always choose HC, becaus you can get maximal accuracy of light crossbow at full speed on courser with 10 riding and 190 wpf.

And you do NOT have to slow down if you want to aim

Build:

7str
30agi
10riding
10wm
2ps or 2if
5ha

[Torp]

well... i havent tried it, but it seems Xbow is easier for non-experienced ha's, but bow is better if you're good.
All the good ha's i know use bow.

[HentziTheHun]

Nothing to argue about this.
Horse archer is more effective than horse crossbower. I do not want to say big but I think I have been shot by horse crossbowers about 3-4 times as a Horse archer for 3 months. Horse crossbowers usually do not mean a rivalist for a horse archer.

[Siboire]

They are not the same thing a all, HA is anti cav while HX is mainly a drive-by infantry shooter (go full speed with 10 riding on a courser and shoot somebody with light xbow and steel bolts and he'll feel it pretty bad!) If you encouter an ennemy cav running full speed at you to your face, u can easily one shot him thx to both horses' speed bonuses.

And dravic, HX or HC wtv lol as long as we understand each others.

[justme]

horse archer vs toilet paper
no difference,
nobody respect them

[Murchad]

Nothing to argue about this.
Horse archer is more effective than horse crossbower. I do not want to say big but I think I have been shot by horse crossbowers about 3-4 times as a Horse archer for 3 months. Horse crossbowers usually do not mean a rivalist for a horse archer.

I dont think he was talking about HA vs HC fighting each other.
he meant pros and cons of each.
HA will usually win duel with each other because if he just gets close and shoots with arrows it stops the reload animation on the crossbow.
I have never made a dedicated HC but i have used crossbows on some of my HA builds when at low level and i found them surprisingly effective even when i was using at 1wpf.
but I would give the edge to a HA at high level, especially over level 30