I used statistics to 'prove' my point because I was given a clear hypothesis that was provably false.
I was invited to compare the US without black people to any European country. Which seemed like a flawed test because then I'm comparing apples and oranges, 2 nations with different stats across the board (normally) and removing black people from one population but not the other. The 'proof' in this case was simple as I was invited to compare homicide rate between US and European countries, so did so in areas with consistent levels of black people. I only needed specific stats, because I was testing a specific claim.
My claim that you were responding to, is not a claim but a question:
"So, if firearms are not the issue and it is infact Black people who are responsible why do none of these US States have a lower Homicide rate than England?"
A question you have still failed to answer. If firearms are not the issue, why do none of these US States that have the same % of black people as England, have much higher homicide rates?
If you are still adamant that it is the black people and not the guns, then that begs the further question of why American black people are so much more violent than European black people.
Heskey alot of this has to do with poverty and an acceptance of welfare culture, welfare dependence usually leads to the voluntary segregation of people based off of poverty whether they are white black or hispanic. There are also major anomalies when trying to understand US statistics, one is that hispanics are often automatically categorized as white greatly inflating white crime statistics and another is that African immigrants, many from Nigeria and Ghana that happen to be some of the most highly educated people in the US with 2/3's holding degrees already broke thru this socio-economic barrier on their own and commit virtually no crime, so black demographics don't necessarily mean more crime and white demographics don't mean less crime.
We all know white people commit crime too and you can reasonably expect a higher % among white americans compared to euro whites solely off the fact that guns are widely available in some US states. Also it would be naive to underestimate how dangerous some of these welfare slums can be and how high they can inflate crime stats, even if they are a very small demographic proportion of a cities population...
It's actually pretty simple, if you are receiving free money from the government and they find out you have another source of income they will cut you off, so gangs form in these segregated areas, drug territories and other illegal rackets are setup so they can make more money illegally on top of what they are getting, this form of welfare culture is well established in many US cities.