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Throwing "x" mode change speed
« on: April 27, 2016, 03:53:52 pm »
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I don't know exactly why it is or how it works, but for some reason some weapons have instant mode change, like Flambard or every throwing weapon out there, some though, most of them in fact have a small delay when changing modes.

I still think that Throwing lance is one of the more broken weapons in game. Gah I recently used it with no wpf and it still had good accuracy. My suggestion would be not to actually nerf it (well maybe a bit), but add that small delay for switching modes, and maybe even buff the melee speed a bit if it works.

Regarding other throwing - some weapons like throwing axes shouldn't have it, since they are held like in melee mode already.

PS: I'd opt to have no requirement for any throwing whatsoever, and reduce the stat level of all of them a bit, since the 0 diff lances have proved to be awful without PT anyway (While being good with PT and wpf) but that might be too drastic of a change for you guys to accept ^^
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Re: Throwing "x" mode change speed
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2016, 05:12:09 pm »
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The only part of the throwing lance that needs changing is the speed and the ability to change too quickly, the lance is too quick to keep up and with and a person decent with it can literally decimate an entire team (Look at what Zero_SaT does with that weapon, I've not seen him at the bottom of the scoreboard with it, ever.) Any skilled player using that weapon is basically unkillable, unless you're in like a 5v1 situation, and even then you'll probably lose 2 of that 5 people lol.
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Re: Throwing "x" mode change speed
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2016, 10:52:20 pm »
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Throwing lances are in a shadow of their former self. Junk i say, sure Zero_SaT is doing gods work with them, but thats one person. Basically anyone else trying them out does way below average. Pretty junk tier. Nerfing something based on one good player is just stupid.

Mode switching is a fun gimmick, gets predictable if you actually are using it well, but generally its not that good. I wouldnt say it needs any change really. If you see someone backing off holding his throwing mode lace up but delaying super long, just start expecting to block it manually, theres really not much else to it.
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Re: Throwing "x" mode change speed
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2016, 10:54:05 pm »
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I don't know exactly why it is or how it works, but for some reason some weapons have instant mode change, like Flambard or every throwing weapon out there, some though, most of them in fact have a small delay when changing modes.

I still think that Throwing lance is one of the more broken weapons in game. Gah I recently used it with no wpf and it still had good accuracy. My suggestion would be not to actually nerf it (well maybe a bit), but add that small delay for switching modes, and maybe even buff the melee speed a bit if it works.

Regarding other throwing - some weapons like throwing axes shouldn't have it, since they are held like in melee mode already.

PS: I'd opt to have no requirement for any throwing whatsoever, and reduce the stat level of all of them a bit, since the 0 diff lances have proved to be awful without PT anyway (While being good with PT and wpf) but that might be too drastic of a change for you guys to accept ^^

The flambard x-thing is just a 'bug' that's left as it is. They propably forgot to add the delay to it.
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Re: Throwing "x" mode change speed
« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2016, 06:13:25 pm »
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Throwing lances are in a shadow of their former self. Junk i say, sure Zero_SaT is doing gods work with them, but thats one person. Basically anyone else trying them out does way below average. Pretty junk tier. Nerfing something based on one good player is just stupid.

Mode switching is a fun gimmick, gets predictable if you actually are using it well, but generally its not that good. I wouldnt say it needs any change really. If you see someone backing off holding his throwing mode lace up but delaying super long, just start expecting to block it manually, theres really not much else to it.
Tried them myself and not talking about Zero_Sat or any other specific player.