Polearm Axes swing way too fast

[PoisonedTail]

I have never understood why polearm axes like the great long axe or long axe swing so damn fast. They can outswing nearly every weapon in the game. They weigh much more than a 1h or 2h sword but swing as fast, if not faster. Just a suggestion to lower the speed. If you do not agree with me, tell me your side of the argument.

[Gravoth_iii]

Their range sucks. Long axe is fast, yes, but really short so it balances out.

[BlackxBird]

yeah you can't outreach the normal two handed swords at all and the stab sucks

[PoisonedTail]

Their range sucks. Long axe is fast, yes, but really short so it balances out.

You realize the great long axe out ranges every single 2h sword in the game besides the Flamberge and Heavy Great Sword? Obviously it's range is not "shit".

[BlackxBird]

lol no idea who you were fighting, or who fought you with this weapons, but he was even better than u or even worse. The range sux. I can show u that in a duel

[BlackxBird]

2h
Overhead = +15
Left-to-right = +17
Right-to-left = +13
Thrust = +80 (This may be slightly wrong with the new stab animation)

2h Polearms
Overhead = -15
Left-to-right = -7
Right-to-left = -2
Thrust = +19

the longes axe has 125 reach. The normal two handed swords have 120 +- 4
Now just calculate...

[PoisonedTail]

lol no idea who you were fighting, or who fought you with this weapons, but he was even better than u or even worse. The range sux. I can show u that in a duel

Visually it has a long reach

Also where do you get those numbers from?

[BlackxBird]

yo mama

[BlackxBird]

http://forum.melee.org/beginner's-help-and-guides/game-mechanic-megathread!/

[Gurnisson]

It has already been said, reach is garbage because of the polearm animations.

[Casul]

Btw reach, if a danish Greatsword is held at the very end of the grasp it has the reach of 124? = lenght on shop

But when polearms have a lenght of 124 they have a shorter reach because they are held at around 1/3-1/2 of the weapon or is it really the animation?

[BlackxBird]

no, just check the numbers cassi.

Im stich gibts für poles bissl mehr, aber sonst ham se überall extreme abzüge!

[Senni__Ti]

Btw reach, if a danish Greatsword is held at the very end of the grasp it has the reach of 124? = lenght on shop

But when polearms have a lenght of 124 they have a shorter reach because they are held at around 1/3-1/2 of the weapon or is it really the animation?

Animation, the length is measured from the center of the right hand grip point.
The right hand in polearm animations is always behind the left.
In 2h the right is infront of the left.
=> 2h reaches further.

In regards to the topic, I too find polearms swings to be a little fast.
Mainly right->left.