Ranged stagger removed (Update: made much more rare)

[Panos_]

panos bec can now rear horses and have knockdown and high pierce dmg  Even 2handers can rear horses now, and there are bigger 2handers with knockdown
stafs are just fuking awesome  yeah, cool story bro
hoplite is best class for big battle  I`m talking about 4d polearms, not 2d ones
pikes I`m talking about 4d polearms, not 2d ones
alwpikes I`m talking about 4d polearms, not 2d ones
that berdiche that you use is probably best axe in the game Sure its strong, but it`s slow as fuck
there are almost no Unbalanced weapons in class What?? You know shit bobby..
poleaxes are omniweapons with good in everything  So is longsword
 

just stopb biching

"just stopb biching". coming from a guy who used to be a longsword user, and kept lobbying so it could get a major buff.

Now you`re a polearmer, lets see how long until your respec into 2h class again bobby.


Thank god c-rpg is all about total balance between classes 

[Macropus]

Tydeus, you keep nerfing 4d polearms, while on the other hand you buff 2h class.

You removed the stagger lock of all 4d polearms, while on the other hand every 2h got a +1 speed, like they werent fast already.

I knew since day 1 that the mod favours  bundle of sticksry 2h class, but for fucks sake, don`t make it THAT obvious.

Panos, slow polearms got +1 speed too, including your (mine too) long bardiche. Haven't you noticed? 
I think all slow weapons got a speed buff, except for onehanders.
PS: and no, not all twohanders got the speed buff. Fast ones sure didn't.

[Panos_]

Panos, slow polearms got +1 speed too, including your (mine too) long bardiche. Haven't you noticed? 
I think all slow weapons got a speed buff, except for onehanders.
PS: and no, not all twohanders got the speed buff. Fast ones sure didn't.

Nope, I didnt notice, because speed was never a big issue for me. But still buffing two classes at the same time while one of them is already more OP that the other, wont equate things.

[Ikarus]

it´s still shitty as a polearm cav, 1h got as much range as 2h (if they use their weapon right), which makes them as ghay as 2h imo

Update: Stagger can (apparently the correct term for what causes your movement to stop) still happen, but as of now it seems very rare. And tweaks can still happen.

As a xbower...I totally approve this. Bolts n arrows don´t stun you EVERYTIME they hit you

[Tydeus]

All 95 and lower speed weapons got +1 speed aside from the War Spear. Some exceptions were made for faster weapons, like the Two Handed Sword, which is now 97 speed, from 96, but hardly anything else was changed. I'd like to further increase speed for the really slow weapons, but we'll see. As for what pole's should gain for the movement stun getting removed, I need to play more as melee, rather than archer, to see.

[Prpavi]

Panos how do you expect a weapon that is much larger, heavier, basically an axe on top of a stick to handle the same speed and finese as a lighter balanced well crafter sword?

Stop trying to equal 2h and Polearms, they are quite different classes with quite different features.

[Butan]

After a few days of getting my shit shot a few times, I can say the "much more rare ranged stagger" isnt going to change the lives of ranged.
Except if you wear slab of steels like me, it will only give you the opportunity to get 1-3 good projectiles up your ass and still counter-attack the closest ranged available for instant justice.

But the more protection you have, the slower you are, thus even if I continue running up some archers with my plate, they dont lose much kiting power.



Basically, I'm waiting for bagge to come back because it was obviously a heat of the moment unjustified rage. I understand they hate the patch since it has the "appearance" of making us look like the new terminator, but its not like each time we get shot by we make 5m forward jump, we just keep moving.

[Panos_]

Panos how do you expect a weapon that is much larger, heavier, basically an axe on top of a stick to handle the same speed and finese as a lighter balanced well crafter sword?

Stop trying to equal 2h and Polearms, they are quite different classes with quite different features.

I`m not trying to equate their stats, but their pros and cons.

Constant nerfing in 4d polearms, while on the other hand retardedly OP 2h swords like longsword, are left untouched.

Bring back the stagger lock for polearm class, and Ill stop lobbying.

[Rebelyell]

"just stopb biching". coming from a guy who used to be a longsword user, and kept lobbying so it could get a major buff.

Now you`re a polearmer, lets see how long until your respec into 2h class again bobby.


Thank god c-rpg is all about total balance between classes 

1h is on my list now, 2h is not that funny since polearms animations are not only about right swing spam(boring).

[Kafein]

Panos, how would you compare a regular Poleaxe with a regular Longsword?

[Prpavi]

I`m not trying to equate their stats, but their pros and cons.

Constant nerfing in 4d polearms, while on the other hand retardedly OP 2h swords like longsword, are left untouched.

Bring back the stagger lock for polearm class, and Ill stop lobbying.

Not every polearm is Great Bardiche you know...