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Make more 2h weapons as 1/2(bastard) weapon please
« on: November 23, 2013, 09:48:37 pm »
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There are many quite short and relatively small(as 2H) weapons in 2H category and these weapons could be used in one hand without problems. Of course they would be slow and weak while used as 1h and that's ok, I just suggest to add more flexibility to gameplay not some new OP niche.
The weapons I thought might be suitable for bastards are:
- all axes with max 90 lenght:
  • Two handed Axe
  • Persian War Axe(maybe, but why not?)
- pierce/blunt weapons that don't look too heavy, so without mauls, Long Iron Mace, also that means that Goedendag is no more a bastard weapon(why is it anyway, it looks ridiculous in 1h, maybe change a model?):
  • Studded Warclub
  • Mace  -already 1/2h... shame on me
  • Morningstar -already 1/2h...
- And:
  • Estoc. It's not that long, has weak slashes, so it's like a bigger brother of rondel. But it'd be much weaker and slower in 1h mode.  -already 1/2h...

What do you think? Maybe another weapons?

edit: also there're some 1H weapons that could be used as 2H: Flanged Mace and some other maces, axes and picks
edit2: what about making some polearms a 2H weapons? Voulge, Long Spiked Club, Bec de Corbin?(of course with balanced stats)
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Re: Make more 2h weapons as 1/2(bastard) weapon please
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2013, 10:00:40 pm »
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YES PLEASE, MORE LOLSTABBING WEAPONS
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Re: Make more 2h weapons as 1/2(bastard) weapon please
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2013, 10:15:37 pm »
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Lol Persian war axe!  :lol:

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Re: Make more 2h weapons as 1/2(bastard) weapon please
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2013, 10:23:21 pm »
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Lol Persian war axe!  :lol:
You know, it's not that long and doesn't look like it couldn't be used in 1h, besides the Iron War and Battle Axes(1h equivalents) have 37/36 cut dmg. If I'm not mistaken(I still don't know is it -23.5% or -15%) not-loomed Persian War Axe used as 1h would have 34.5 cut dmg and be really slow(or 38 if -15%)

YES PLEASE, MORE LOLSTABBING WEAPONS
block down or chamber, it's not too hard against slow stab weapons
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Re: Make more 2h weapons as 1/2(bastard) weapon please
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2013, 10:48:20 pm »
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Mace is already 1H/2H
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Re: Make more 2h weapons as 1/2(bastard) weapon please
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2013, 11:01:15 pm »
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Mace, Morningstar, and Estoc are already usable as one-handers with shields. As for the rest... really? The Persian War Axe is the heaviest two-hander besides the mauls, and if it was usable as 1h, it would top all other axes by 10 length. Big no there.

The Studded Warclub? Unless your character has a beefy Trogdor arm there is no way he could hold that with one hand, let alone swing it.

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Re: Make more 2h weapons as 1/2(bastard) weapon please
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2013, 11:37:24 pm »
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Mace, Morningstar, and Estoc are already usable as one-handers with shields.
Really? Well, I'm so disinformed... + for ya
As for the rest... really? The Persian War Axe is the heaviest two-hander besides the mauls, and if it was usable as 1h, it would top all other axes by 10 length. Big no there.
but it'd be terribly slow. Let's be honest - 2h weapon below 99 speed is more and more unuseful as 1h. And the damage also sucks.
But I don't insist on making persian a bastard weapon, it's just a proposition. Do you think that suddenly many 1h players would go all persian 1h mode? Morningstar is similar to Persian and I'm not sure if I've ever seen someone with it used as 1h(I gonna try it..)

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The Studded Warclub? Unless your character has a beefy Trogdor arm there is no way he could hold that with one hand, let alone swing it.
LOL. You can't hold a wooden stick(and only 92 lenght) with few small metal parts in it? Please. And why Goedendag is a bastard, this is really a big stick? This is something you could be against of.
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Re: Make more 2h weapons as 1/2(bastard) weapon please
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2013, 11:40:06 pm »
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The studded warclub would be like swinging a baseball bat with some small metal weights on the end in one hand, not very effective. Same for godendag.

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Re: Make more 2h weapons as 1/2(bastard) weapon please
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2013, 11:46:43 pm »
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The studded warclub would be like swinging a baseball bat with some small metal weights on the end in one hand, not very effective. Same for godendag.
Is there any effective 1/2 weapon in 1h mode? I'd say not really, bastard swords have nice range and are even useful with high 1h wpf but deal low dmg, other are too slow and don't hit hard enough. It's more about tactics, you can easily use shield when it's needed, that kind of thing... Maybe you're a lobbying shooter here? :D

Maybe suggest other weapon you'd like to see as a 1h/2h?
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