A Counter Intuitive Patch

[Kafein]

I have a peasant alt, which prior to the patch with no IF and just 15 strength, would take 3-4 arrows or 2-3 bolts to take down.

"I'm the Pope" is less of a dubious statement.

[Angantyr]

I like the new changes except for loldaggers with shields being even more ridiculous now with the higher wpf, who in their right minds would have them behave like this in the mod? And ranged, god.. so many shielders and coward hx's, ha's and xbows and archers and throwers now in cRPG I feel like I'm back in Native. I use 40k+ equipment and I can still get 1 shot to the face from some random guy across the map.

[Jack1]

I agree with everything except the DTV part, the mode is a lot better IMO when the rounds don't take a half an hour each

Also, if the estoc gets something as low as 15b swing damage the stab should be buffed somewhat to make up for the basically one usable direction.

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[brockssn]

I agree, but I like the DTV changes overall.

[Canuck]

Agree 100%

Only thing to point out is that the 2handers were left alone in their 2handed mode. Their alt modes (polearm / halfswording) got buffed (A LOT). So basically, swords are now the best polearms as well.



GG variety.

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Also, the estoc should really do maybe 15 blunt damage on the swings, since 30p on a 2HANDER STAB is OP enough. Heck, the weapon would be good with only 1 attack direction.

Seems like you're a little too biased there Jona. I don't know how you can use poles so much and still go on about how 2h is so ridiculously OP and all that other shit, like fuck man, the half swords are now the best polearms? Really? Not trying to be a dick but really I'm just not sure where that idea is coming from. I'm going tribrid this gen because I think that all the melee classes are great and have their own strengths and weaknesses and no one class is better than another in everything. Maybe you should try that too!

I agree about the estoc though (maybe not 15 blunt). A 30p thrust and 40c swing? I like the idea of the weapon and everything but it's too easy to switch modes mid fight and beat the shit out of people. Even without switching modes the weapon is a little unbalanced.

[Macbeth3]

I agree with most things, But my main focus is... Why does the estoc have "cutting" damage on it's swing?!

An estoc has a "blunt" edge, and a pointy end. Remove the cut and replace with for example 24 blunt.

[Nightmare798]

I agree with most things, But my main focus is... Why does the estoc have "cutting" damage on it's swing?!

An estoc has a "blunt" edge, and a pointy end. Remove the cut and replace with for example 24 blunt.

I already Said this, however, I think that 24 blunt is a bit too much for a weapon that was not meant to be swung with in first place.

[Brrrak]

Not to demean what, I am sure, Lethwin, are very good points, but...

Halfswording got buffed!?

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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!