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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2013, 10:13:00 am »
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Am I the only one bleeding gold like a motherfudger? I could almost break even with plate+danish greatsword, I only bled a little.

Now I can'tt even break even with heraldic+longsword. EVERYTHING breaks, every round, no matter the defeat or victory. 1200 gold per round.

Have you noticed similar behaviours or am I just unlucky?

I hope you filled your emtpy slots with daggers or other cheap 0 slot stuff. Cause that helps saving money, ya know
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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2013, 10:26:07 am »
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I hope you filled your emtpy slots with daggers or other cheap 0 slot stuff. Cause that helps saving money, ya know

For real? Or is this some kind of irony without smiley?

Because I always thought that every item has a chance to break after the end of the round, and not a certain amount of items.

I mean if your armour has a chance x to break after a win and a chance y after a loss, a dagger doesn't influence it at all, because he has his own x and y chances. You know what I mean? It's like the bad, old joke with the mathematician who brings a bomb on his flight, because the chance that there are two bombs on one plane is almost equal nill.
Joker makes a very good point.
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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2013, 03:04:02 pm »
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The random aspect of upkeep was a foolish idea from the beginning. Every item should have a fixed upkeep per minute equipped, with variable gold/XP rewards depending on performance+proximity to objectives.

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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #18 on: July 02, 2013, 03:22:18 pm »
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Since the patch my alt archer (level 27) in light gear i have lost like 20-30k onit and my main cant upkeep it, so yeah bad times for me to lol :)

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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2013, 08:50:08 pm »
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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2013, 08:55:30 pm »
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Use the marketplace and quit crying about upkeep  :lol: :lol:
I've never played a server where people split up as much or as often as on EU1.  No wonder range is having a field day.

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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2013, 10:13:56 pm »
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In average I'm paying repair for 3, 4 items a round, even with low price gear I'm not gaining any gold unless on x4 or x5 which I rarely get on siege more than 3 rounds out of 10, so I'm stuck on same amount of gold. For ppl like me who don't rely on market or strat to make gold, this is really hard to make profit of.

And that, has encouraged many ppl to play in peasant gear lately just to escape upkeep!
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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2013, 01:59:30 am »
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it would interesting to see how much upkeep all the people have who say they are LOSING money.

on my main Tojo I have 1,778 gold repair bill if everything breaks.
my STF has a repair bill of only 250 gold... (to make money all i have to do is last 5 xp ticks at x1   =250g)
x5 on my STF makes alot of gold

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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2013, 02:08:53 am »
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Am I the only one bleeding gold like a motherfudger? I could almost break even with plate+danish greatsword, I only bled a little.

Now I can'tt even break even with heraldic+longsword. EVERYTHING breaks, every round, no matter the defeat or victory. 1200 gold per round.

Have you noticed similar behaviours or am I just unlucky?
I think that upkeep should only be paid by the winning team of a round, Discouraging armor-crutches from determining the battles outcome, fearing the loads of income coming their way. Also, it might be more realistic in the sense that even though they achieved victory they still got beat up in the process. Whereas the dead team wouldn't pay shit because they are dead. Then again, there are obviously flaws in my idea. Just my opinion.
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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2013, 04:47:30 am »
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I think that upkeep should only be paid by the winning team of a round, Discouraging armor-crutches from determining the battles outcome, fearing the loads of income coming their way. Also, it might be more realistic in the sense that even though they achieved victory they still got beat up in the process. Whereas the dead team wouldn't pay shit because they are dead. Then again, there are obviously flaws in my idea. Just my opinion.

Upkeep itself is a flawed mechanic. You can do what you want, it will always remain a bad system. No way to find a good solution without removing upkeep.
Joker makes a very good point.
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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2013, 07:20:13 pm »
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Because I always thought that every item has a chance to break after the end of the round, and not a certain amount of items.

I think the game randomly chooses a random amount of items to be repaired, but if you add daggers to your inventory, there´s always a chance that you can get away with a cheap repair.
I´m using it for my 2h (2h and two daggers) and I recorded the repairs for quite a time: it seemed to work for me.
Still, I recorded my repairs for nearly two weeks 2 years ago and don´t know if the system has changed by now ;P
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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2013, 08:49:05 pm »
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I think the game randomly chooses a random amount of items to be repaired, but if you add daggers to your inventory, there´s always a chance that you can get away with a cheap repair.
I´m using it for my 2h (2h and two daggers) and I recorded the repairs for quite a time: it seemed to work for me.
Still, I recorded my repairs for nearly two weeks 2 years ago and don´t know if the system has changed by now ;P
The repair chance triggers for every item separately, so there's no way to reduce this chance by wearing more cheap items.  :)
Although, if ot works for you, why not...

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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2013, 09:28:42 pm »
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the problem you are facing stems from the lack of ritual sacrafice to appease the crpg gods. Go out and find a fitting sacrafice a small animal will do fine, squirrel, duck, snake, etc. Once uou have your sacrafice simply remove its heart and insert it to your CD drive while crpg is running.

have used this solution many times.
I didnt see the word duck there...
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Re: [Latest Patch] Armors are now made of paper
« Reply #28 on: July 31, 2013, 09:41:16 pm »
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If you get a smoke bomb kill in a given round, you won't pay upkeep that round.

Ask cochon, he will verify.