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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2011, 12:17:44 am »
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Lech I'm both retarded AND a lobbyist, I'm Ninja_Thomek. Who the hell are you btw?

Anyway, vMega is afaik not biased and a very capable swordsman, and he confirms that the Katana is the inferior weapon to Heavy Bastard. Thanks for testing!

The lazy fix is of course to lower the price, but then you already destined the Kata to the low end of the weapon-pool. Frankly I don't think it belongs there, as it is a famous weapon. I'd rather pump the stats so it gets ON PAR with the other high end swords.

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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2011, 03:43:22 am »
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Lech I'm both retarded AND a lobbyist, I'm Ninja_Thomek. Who the hell are you btw?

This made me laugh. +1 to you sir!
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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2011, 09:23:27 am »
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Lech I'm both retarded AND a lobbyist, I'm Ninja_Thomek. Who the hell are you btw?

Anyway, vMega is afaik not biased and a very capable swordsman, and he confirms that the Katana is the inferior weapon to Heavy Bastard. Thanks for testing!

The lazy fix is of course to lower the price, but then you already destined the Kata to the low end of the weapon-pool. Frankly I don't think it belongs there, as it is a famous weapon. I'd rather pump the stats so it gets ON PAR with the other high end swords.

Imo:

Taking into account you ninjas got it on masterwork anyways, i say just give the sword some more pierce and +1 / +2 cut. Lower the price a little....

Range is something that cant be made up with any stats, range is something id call comfort in battle.

Katana simply is too expensive as it is atm.

Btw: I'd prefer a 2h sword over all of these... ;-)

« Last Edit: May 11, 2011, 09:30:35 am by v/onMega »

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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2011, 11:48:01 am »
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Lech I'm both retarded AND a lobbyist, I'm Ninja_Thomek. Who the hell are you btw?

Anyway, vMega is afaik not biased and a very capable swordsman, and he confirms that the Katana is the inferior weapon to Heavy Bastard. Thanks for testing!

The lazy fix is of course to lower the price, but then you already destined the Kata to the low end of the weapon-pool. Frankly I don't think it belongs there, as it is a famous weapon. I'd rather pump the stats so it gets ON PAR with the other high end swords.

Better player than you.

Katana is not inferior to heavy bastard, it's faster and this count for a lot.

It should be low end sword, katanas sucked irl compared to those other swords, and japan stuff need serious tax anyway.

Imo seriously nerf it and make it 1 slot item.
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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2011, 11:54:41 am »
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Yes.. Katanas sucked.

vMega reccomended almost the same as I. Give it more pierce so it's not suicidal to try to thrust. Doesn't need to do that much damage, just so you avoid the bump mechanic most of the time. 1-2 more swing damage and that's it.

UrLukur I'll kick your ass in a duel any day.
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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2011, 11:56:28 am »
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Yes.. Katanas sucked.

vMega reccomended almost the same as I. Give it more pierce so it's not suicidal to try to thrust. Doesn't need to do that much damage, just so you avoid the bump mechanic most of the time. 1-2 more swing damage and that's it.

UrLukur I'll kick your ass in a duel any day.

Last time when we did it in native you lost badly multiple times. You might kill me in duel as i am lvl 8 atm and i can be outspammed (out footwork'd) by pretty much anything.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2011, 11:58:26 am by UrLukur »
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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2011, 12:26:29 pm »
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Thomek, no reason to get heated by Urlukur, just ignore him. It's what I usually do.
Also, Urlukur. Take some lessons from kinngrimm. I just can't beat him. Can't get past his defense and he always eventually gets past mine.
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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2011, 12:50:47 pm »
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Thomek, no reason to get heated by Urlukur, just ignore him. It's what I usually do.
Also, Urlukur. Take some lessons from kinngrimm. I just can't beat him. Can't get past his defense and he always eventually gets past mine.

Lesson from him ? I don't remember when he last time killed me. Didn't you killed me twice by chamber blocks and just due to chamberblocks ?
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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2011, 01:14:38 pm »
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Lesson from him ? I don't remember when he last time killed me. Didn't you killed me twice by chamber blocks and just due to chamberblocks ?
kinngrimm doesn't die from chamberblocks. He blocks them.
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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2011, 01:24:44 pm »
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Khorin, I gave you a -1, you just cant be more awesome than me :-)

Yes.. Kinngrimm has become scaringly good. He sometimes falls for the left right left, hit you in the back though..

But now he has more armor!  :evil:  It no good. I don't like it.
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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2011, 07:58:08 pm »
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The katana is certainly not one of the top twohanders now, as its price would suggest. I don't know what it is with every patch trying to kill our style, but nerfing the katana wasn't necesarry at all. I'd take a longsword or a bastard sword over the katana any day if I wasn't a ninja.

Okay it needs to be an exotic weapon, I think the price reflects that already, no need for the bad stats. I suggest giving the katana 2 more stab damage and 1 more slash damage. Or make it 2k more expensive and give it 3 more stab damage and 2 more slash.

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Re: Heavy Bastard Sword, Longsword and the katana
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2011, 08:26:18 pm »
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Just remove the stab entirely at this point with such low damage and make it slash only like all the other curved swords.  It would be far more effective that way and you can make it 1 slot safely too.
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