This will be my single response to your post Nessaj. I won't be making another one since I will try to condence most of my points in this one.
However, before I start, I would just like to thank you for proving to everyone what sort of tactics people like you are willing to employ. I can respect people who disagree with me. I have had brilliant discussions here with people like Kaffein, whom I dissagreed with at almost every point, and I still parted with respect for them. However, you are too petty and too intellectually weak to do something like that. Instead, your only method of discourse is silencing the opposition and then making a large, incoherent rant full of fallacies, strawmans and ad hominems. Tell me how I, or anybody else, would respect a person like you?
Thus, this post is not a plea to be unmuted, I know abusing, power-hungry anarcho-
fascists like you would never allow for a proper answer to their rants. I lived long enough in Greece to know your kind. You will never change. My only way to combat you is to appeal to everybody else listening and provide a coherent response myself. That is what I shall do.
Several Golden Dawn members are accused of stabbing innocents (in the back) on the street and what not.
That is not corruption.
cor·rup·tion
/kəˈrəpSHən/
Noun
Dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.
Golden Dawn was never fraudulent or dishonest about their intentions, nor have they taken any bribes to the public's knowledge so far, unlike every single other political party in the Greek parliament right now. Since I mentioned KKE in a post above, let me expand on what they have done:
-KKE controls most of the unions in Greece. The Greek unions are famously corrupt, with billions of euros in bribes and blackmailing. Many union bosses have admitted themselves that part of the reason industry collapsed in Greece is because of their "activism".
-KKE members abuse the donations to them and money from the state openly. The leader of KKE, Papariga, lives in a villa in the richest part of Athens and has send her kids to expensive private universities abroad.
-KKE's marches are frequently marked with riots. The infamous riot 2 years ago that resulted in the death of 2 employees of a bank that was set of fire by said riots was started by PAME, the union (of unions) controlled by KKE.
I could list 100 more failings of that party, and the rest of the parties (SYRIZA for example is mostly compromised of ex-PASOK members nowadays. Needless to say, anything PASOK is corrupt to the core) are corrupt. I dare you find me such an example for GD.
Facts are not politically charged. You could call them power-hungry, authoritarian and, yes indeed, fascists and you could have good points, but they are not corrupt
yet and I won't back off from that statement.
even though you're Greek and the word Anarchy stems from Greek meaning WITHOUT LEADERS, you seem to be more in favor of having Masters and Lords brainwash you with their great intentions for you and your country.
I love how people who don't know Greek pretend otherwise. Trying to school a Greek on Greek is even more hilarious.
But hey, why let the opportunity pass?
Αναρχία - anarchy does NOT mean without leaders. That would be αήγετος. Anarchy in Greek means without order and has extremely bad connotations. For that precice reason Greek anarchists, bar few, do not call themselves anarchists but instead αντιεξουσιαστές, ie, anti-authoritarians.
So there, you learned something today. Try not to make a fool of yourself again.
They are using the century old tactic, DIVIDE AND CONQUER.
Haha, yeah, you have a point there! They almost remind me of those people that tell us to wage class warfare to get rid of the people who give us jobs and the "Bourgeoisie"
Hey, speaking of learning stuff today, and considering this response is aimed at other people rather than you specifically, why not help other people learn more!
Bourgeoisie does not mean rich, did you know that? In fact, Bourgeoisie means middle class people, ie, the majority of the population in western countries. Assuming you have a PC capable of running C-RPG and a decent enough internet connection, that most probably mean you! So remember that next time a screaming commie approaches you!
Now, to move on.
The only reason there even is mass immigration to Western or European countries is because we (the West and Europe) are either bombing these countries or impose sanctions on them, why the hell would they NOT leave that misery behind and travel North or West.
-Greece is not the west or in the west.
-Greece has not bombed anyone the past 40 years
-Greece gets every single deported immigrant from the EU since most of them enter from Greece and, when they run off to other EU countries, they return them to us.
-Greece has, in fact, frequently objected to bombings, including Iraq.
-Illegals in Greece come from many countries that the west hasn't touched. Somalia, Nigeria, Kongo etc etc etc.
And of course
-It is not Greece's duty to take care of anyone else's shit, especially when we are in deep shit outselves.
"Greece for the Greeks" such a disgrace of humanity.
Truly, I can't imagine anything worse than a nation that housed Greeks, was founded by Greeks and is run by the Greeks remains GREEK! WHERE IS HUMANITY HEADING TOWARDS?!?!
ALL distinctly echo and mimic images and words used during the Third Reich.
It is funny, cause my grandfather was doing the spartan salute when he was in Metaxa's youth and he fought against the chocolate chip cookies, and was in the resistance. You know, unlike the communists that had strict orders to help the chocolate chip cookies due to the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. I guess my grandfather, who fought the chocolate chip cookies, was a chocolate chip cookie himself. I should tell him, or rather you should!
"Golden Dawn's Black Bible"
Go ahead, it is actually an interesting documentary. Of course. , most of the sources are anarchists and leftists, but knowledge is knowledge.
muh revolution
Will never come. Billions of dead under communist oppression was enough to teach the people that they should never trust your kind again. Yet, you think it is a-ok to go around reading from Marx's manifesto, while at the same time condemning others?
I have the right to say Greece is for Greeks. I have the right to be proud of my ancestors. I am proud my grandfather fought against the chocolate chip cookies and the communists. I am happy my country is not a politically correct shithole where leftists have absolute control over the media. You will fail, as you have in the past and will again in the future.
I am repeating myself, but I really want to emphasize this point:
This response is not for you. You shall remain what you are, I aim not to persuade you. You banned me for a month to avoid any response to what little substance your "arguements" had. If you had any credibility, you would have responded like a forum user, not a moderator. Authoritarians like you though never will have any credibility. You only have your ban hammer. Go on, use it. Show everybody how BIG AND STRONG you are. Show everyone what the extend of your ability to reasonably argue with.
Of course you won't. At best, you will mute Panos too for a month and then make another big rant refuting nothing. At worst, and I kind of expect this from you, you will beg another mod to delete this post and ban me for being "bad evil fascist" so you won't have to make your hands more dirty, nor use any brain power to actual break your echo-chamber.
As we say 'round me parts: GB2 REVLEFT