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Hitting doors/gates and how to defeat a maul user
« on: December 18, 2012, 01:48:25 am »
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When hitting a door you usually do overhead swings, and usually very close to someone else. So I try to stand still, not move my mouse and just swing. It will usually do overhead swings. But every once in a while I do a right or left swing... Sometimes several times after each other. I've hit friendlies enough times, and even killed once, to know that I should just stay the hell away from doors and gates.  I've tried moving my mouse up during every swing, but that is difficult do to without accidentally moving a bit to the right/left. So is there something special I'm not getting here? Or am I just not good enough at holding my mouse still? I've tried it in campaign as well, with no distractions, but it still happens...

Also, as a 2H user. I just get owned by people with hammers since they hit through my blocks (I'm guessing that's what crashtrough is, and I see only the Maul, Mallet and Great Maul has it). I keep my distance if I can, but in tight hallways I don't stand a chance. Any suggestions? Kicking maybe?

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Re: Hitting doors/gates and how to defeat a maul user
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2012, 02:27:03 am »
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If you often do the wrong slash by mistake, try reducing your mouse sensitivity. It does happen to everybody from time to time though, nothing to worry about.

Also I find reverse mouse movement much more intuitive for attacks (also making overheads slightly less awkward than stabs), but if you played warband for a long time with your current settings you are best not changing anything.


Against crushtrough :

- Don't be surprised by them. You should know what awaits you around a corner, or prepare against it
- Don't be surprised when teammates are blocking your path. This is often the reason people die to CT
- Only block their overheads when you got no other choice.
- Either try to circle around them at facehug range, either stay away and lure them into starting a swing.
- You can do that by attacking the air between you and them, that often makes unexperienced maulers think they have an opening.
- Kicks can work, but I don't see many people kicking maulers. I don't see that happening at all tbh so there's probably a good reason.
- You can outspam their overhead swings, but not the sideswings.
- If you can't fight them, avoid them. You aren't supposed to be a one man army, it's usually better to avoid things that get you killed too easily.

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Re: Hitting doors/gates and how to defeat a maul user
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2012, 02:37:16 am »
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Also, if you have teammates around and you are using a 2h weapon, it's better to use stabs. and overheads because you are less likely to wound or kill your team mates. good luck.

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Re: Hitting doors/gates and how to defeat a maul user
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2012, 03:31:48 am »
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Siege doors tutorial:

Unless you have an axe and more than 6 Power Strike, stay away from doors. I'm seeing so many shielders trying to break the door with their scimitars and straight cut swords. They are wasting time because axes are much better for breaking doors than anything else. Bonus against shields works on other wood structures in game as well, including doors.

Maulers... well that's pretty easy weapon to use, if your enemy is trying to facehug you and isn't using fast weapon. If you're shielder with balanced or agi build and fast weapon just spam but make sure you avoid using thrust at all costs and be super careful with overheads because there's a chance mauler with chamber your attack. Spam left and right.

If you have slower but a lot longer weapon, best way is to backpeddal spam the mauler. If you want to facehug him make sure you have good footwork and know how to kick slash.

Important thing to know about mauls is that they are super heavy and their users usually have more than 7 PS to be able to abuse crushtrough, which means their side swings will stun your block most of the time. You can't attack when that happens, you need to block again and then attack.

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Re: Hitting doors/gates and how to defeat a maul user
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2012, 03:49:23 am »
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If they hit you with an overhead and you aren't knocked down, it's more than likely that they won't be able to hit you again with an overhead again. If you see a second one come out, feel free to swing. If they try a sideswing, block and try to get more distance again to reset your positions.

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Re: Hitting doors/gates and how to defeat a maul user
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2012, 05:29:09 am »
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When hitting a door you usually do overhead swings, and usually very close to someone else. So I try to stand still, not move my mouse and just swing. It will usually do overhead swings. But every once in a while I do a right or left swing... Sometimes several times after each other. I've hit friendlies enough times, and even killed once, to know that I should just stay the hell away from doors and gates.
Cancel to a block if you see the wrong animation come out. Everybody picks the wrong switch direction from time to time.

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Re: Hitting doors/gates and how to defeat a maul user
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2012, 10:22:31 am »
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People rarely kick maulers because they can't block a maul if they miss with kick, so it's kinda risky.

About how to fight vs maulers: just abuse your speed and range. Run away/dodge/circle them and spam.

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Re: Hitting doors/gates and how to defeat a maul user
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2012, 11:29:17 am »
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you can reduce the chance to get CT through having a heavy or heavier weapon then the enemy CT-dude( and not sure but perhaps also having same or more str as he has).
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