Some balancing ideas gathered.

[polkafranzi]

Om my f***in god, I just came up with some pretty derpy ideas (most stolen from other threads but i've compiled here my favourites).

There is way too much crying going on these days, do you think some of these ideas could bring back the love between us all?

2h Greatswords (and their users) -

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Is there any pleasing them? No. They think too highly of themselves and everyone knows they cry hardest and loudest if they get hit with a nerf-hammer, BUT, they must at one point realise that there are a few things that would be fair balances for them (not only nerfs):

1. Give lolstab attack a cooldown (similar to red/white couched lance attack).  It's fucking rediculous that you can stab so often and with such range, totally not how the swords were used either.

2. Give Greatswords a chance to break pikes/longspears.  Surely it's easy to implement?  It's rediculous that Greatswords don't have the one thing they were really good at - breaking up pike walls (sometimes cutting the tip off a pike in one swing).  Pike/longspear users will cry about balance, but it's gay that you can even block with them, so I reckon after "x" amounts of hits against your weapon with a Greatsword, the thing should have a chance to break (like a shield does against axes).  In return, give those long poles more epic stab damage, and that shit where you can put them in ground and 1 hit people running into them.

3. Lower their speed considerably.  I am a 2h cav btw, and have all the OP 2her weapons like GGS bla bla, and wouldn't even cry or RQ the mod (unlike some *insert name in relpies below for fun*), if the speed was nerfed to mid 80's for Greatswords.  THIS ALSO GOES FOR POLEAXE FAMILY TOO, IT'S NOT A WEAPON WHICH WAS USED TO OUTDUEL A TINY SWORD, tbh, most polearms are a joke and not used anything near like they should...but I get that it's a game, can't be tooo real. 

4. Buff the turn speed nerf which affects all classes a tiny bit. No-one likes to go slow in this day and age, and I personally think halfway between where we were and where we are now would be cool

[C]avalry! -

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1. Make couched lance have a chance of breaking, maybe the 2nd/3rd couch you use increases break chance massively and so on (dependant on wpf)

2. Pole wpf lowers chance of breaking so any my old friend who thinks of looting a lance with 0 wpf to get easy mode kills (like my HA alt when I run out of arrows), then it breaks nearly every time, even with thrust attacks ^^

3. Nerf bump damage and chance of knockdown on unarmored horses, from Destrier downwards basically, but leave the heavy tanks alone, they are easy to kill as it is if you have the know-how.  Oh and, nerf Arabian manouvere a bit (my most used horse btw, you see me crying? No.)

4. Gurnissons shield forcefield thingy that cav have that he keeps mentioning on threads (never played 1h/shield cav really and i'm good at hitting horses head with my lance so dunno how OP this is) but his points on it sound fair.

5. Buff horses legs, and their heads (1 arrow taking out horses head is a bit OP)

[A]rchers! -

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1. Fucking pleeeeease give them much better melee capabilities, ya know...some free PS, some better sidearm choices, less arrows to stop kiting etc (of course after you've finished nerfing their rediculous damage against good armors, the 50+ ones)

2. I've been to a lot of old castle ruins/villages around Europe, and have yet to see evidence of factories where they were making arrowheads from depleted uranium, so please, this armor piercing shit has to stop.  It DIDN'T HAPPEN, A BUCKET OF THICK STEEL ON YOUR HEAD DIDN'T ALLOW ARROWS TO PASS THROUGH LIKE IT'S MADE FROM SILK.

3. Make arrows hurt unarmored horses (body shots).  I have, what is said to be, the best HA build (as mentioned in the beginner forum), and obviously all unloomed items like horn derp and bodkins but still, it's absolutely rediculous that I can chase a bundle of sticks on a Destrier using the +3 arabian my main borrowed me and the fucker is surviving 12-15 body shots.  Then he gets 1 lucky lance thrust on me and my arap is dead...fuck off.

Oh and...to finish off these brilliant ideas which bring realism and hopefully less QQ, we have to include the ultimate realism change:

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nerf katana

There are many millions more ideas spread out all over the place but anyway, laziness prevails.

Without trolling or being rude because your class might get adjusted, what you think if all those things were added on 1 patch?  OR - Which ONE would you love to see most?  I would think - mod is once again alive and kicking.

[Duckzern]

I can't really see much of this working in a balanced way.
Spears breaking will be way too OP most(if not all) polearms are made out of wood.
And 1H will be able to outspam everything.

[polkafranzi]

I can't really see much of this working in a balanced way.
Spears breaking will be way too OP most(if not all) polearms are made out of wood.
And 1H will be able to outspam everything.

Nah not all of them, but a right combo could = good balance.

[Duckzern]

Nah not all of them, but a right combo could = good balance.

No really, I don't see much working. Archers free PS? WHAT? They choose to be archers and therefore sacrificed their chances in melee fighting, and should get nothing free.
And give the stab a cooldown? if the range really is such a big problem for people wouldn't it be better with a new animation?
And if you lower the attack speed on the GS it'll just be a fucking maul with no benefits.

I'm not going to talk about the Cav since I don't know much about them, besides their bump damage is annoying as fuck.

And for the arrows you do know that an arrow can easily pass through plate compared to mail.

I can see why some of the idea would be cool and realistic but I say fuck realism and balance comes first.

[polkafranzi]

I can see why some of the idea would be cool and realistic but I say fuck realism and balance comes first.

Cos the game is so balanced in it's current state right.

Like I said, these are ideas I spotted that people wrote and I would much rather play a mod with most of them in than out.

[Haboe]

Cos the game is so balanced in it's current state right.

If its so balanced, why change that? xD
+ your favorite changes come down to the same thing, nerf all classes and give archers an uber melee boost...

[polkafranzi]

If its so balanced, why change that? xD
+ your favorite changes come down to the same thing, nerf all classes and give archers an uber melee boost...

Hmm, sarcasm falls upon deaf ears?

Re-read what I wrote but add a sarcastic tone and you'll get it.

[Herkkutatti666]

Buff everything but keep the balance as it is now

[Haboe]

Well as far as i see it these changes would make a far less balanced game...

[zottlmarsch]

And for the arrows you do know that an arrow can easily pass through plate compared to mail.

hang on a sec, are you seriously saying that mail gives you better protection against against arrows than plate does! lol 

[Kajia]

Om my f***in god, I just came up with some pretty derpy ideas (most stolen from other threads but i've compiled here my favourites).

There is way too much crying going on these days, do you think some of these ideas could bring back the love between us all?

2h Greatswords (and their users) -

(click to show/hide)

Is there any pleasing them? No. They think too highly of themselves and everyone knows they cry hardest and loudest if they get hit with a nerf-hammer, BUT, they must at one point realise that there are a few things that would be fair balances for them (not only nerfs):

1. Give lolstab attack a cooldown (similar to red/white couched lance attack).  It's fucking rediculous that you can stab so often and with such range, totally not how the swords were used either.

2. Give Greatswords a chance to break pikes/longspears.  Surely it's easy to implement?  It's rediculous that Greatswords don't have the one thing they were really good at - breaking up pike walls (sometimes cutting the tip off a pike in one swing).  Pike/longspear users will cry about balance, but it's gay that you can even block with them, so I reckon after "x" amounts of hits against your weapon with a Greatsword, the thing should have a chance to break (like a shield does against axes).  In return, give those long poles more epic stab damage, and that shit where you can put them in ground and 1 hit people running into them.

3. Lower their speed considerably.  I am a 2h cav btw, and have all the OP 2her weapons like GGS bla bla, and wouldn't even cry or RQ the mod (unlike some *insert name in relpies below for fun*), if the speed was nerfed to mid 80's for Greatswords.  THIS ALSO GOES FOR POLEAXE FAMILY TOO, IT'S NOT A WEAPON WHICH WAS USED TO OUTDUEL A TINY SWORD, tbh, most polearms are a joke and not used anything near like they should...but I get that it's a game, can't be tooo real. 

4. Buff the turn speed nerf which affects all classes a tiny bit. No-one likes to go slow in this day and age, and I personally think halfway between where we were and where we are now would be cool

[C]avalry! -

(click to show/hide)

1. Make couched lance have a chance of breaking, maybe the 2nd/3rd couch you use increases break chance massively and so on (dependant on wpf)

2. Pole wpf lowers chance of breaking so any my old friend who thinks of looting a lance with 0 wpf to get easy mode kills (like my HA alt when I run out of arrows), then it breaks nearly every time, even with thrust attacks ^^

3. Nerf bump damage and chance of knockdown on unarmored horses, from Destrier downwards basically, but leave the heavy tanks alone, they are easy to kill as it is if you have the know-how.  Oh and, nerf Arabian manouvere a bit (my most used horse btw, you see me crying? No.)

4. Gurnissons shield forcefield thingy that cav have that he keeps mentioning on threads (never played 1h/shield cav really and i'm good at hitting horses head with my lance so dunno how OP this is) but his points on it sound fair.

5. Buff horses legs, and their heads (1 arrow taking out horses head is a bit OP)

[A]rchers! -

(click to show/hide)

1. Fucking pleeeeease give them much better melee capabilities, ya know...some free PS, some better sidearm choices, less arrows to stop kiting etc (of course after you've finished nerfing their rediculous damage against good armors, the 50+ ones)

2. I've been to a lot of old castle ruins/villages around Europe, and have yet to see evidence of factories where they were making arrowheads from depleted uranium, so please, this armor piercing shit has to stop.  It DIDN'T HAPPEN, A BUCKET OF THICK STEEL ON YOUR HEAD DIDN'T ALLOW ARROWS TO PASS THROUGH LIKE IT'S MADE FROM SILK.

3. Make arrows hurt unarmored horses (body shots).  I have, what is said to be, the best HA build (as mentioned in the beginner forum), and obviously all unloomed items like horn derp and bodkins but still, it's absolutely rediculous that I can chase a bundle of sticks on a Destrier using the +3 arabian my main borrowed me and the fucker is surviving 12-15 body shots.  Then he gets 1 lucky lance thrust on me and my arap is dead...fuck off.

Oh and...to finish off these brilliant ideas which bring realism and hopefully less QQ, we have to include the ultimate realism change:

(click to show/hide)

nerf katana

There are many millions more ideas spread out all over the place but anyway, laziness prevails.

Without trolling or being rude because your class might get adjusted, what you think if all those things were added on 1 patch?  OR - Which ONE would you love to see most?  I would think - mod is once again alive and kicking.

I approve.

my 2 cents:
try removing artificial boundaries!
- reduce slot-value on some weapons and instead add more new design elements like longer weapon-changing time, for example. nerfs and buffs gameplay for everyone.
- try to implement crush-through on heavy weapons if not all, and reduce damage taken with better armor. it sucks to die with 2 hits from a 1-handed sword, wearing a heavy kuyak.
- make it possible to pick up and use all weapons for everyone, but with really slow efficiency, increase skill influence (more skill-points necessary for effective use). again: nerf and buff for everyone - more freedom and diversity.