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Offline matt2507

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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #15 on: April 08, 2012, 08:08:44 pm »
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I had a mamluke horse break five out of five rounds on McCloud but I didn't whine on the forums.. It's just bad luck. You never notice rounds your horse not breaking for 10 rounds but you notice the negatives, I.E when your horse breaks a lot :)

If you have a lot of gold and you like the stupidly lose, it's cool for you.
But this is not my case.

I do not understand whys it does not surprise anyone that the price of repair of the horses is so high compared with other items even better.

I made my two preceding generation in infantry and even playing several round in full stuff, I never had so many repairs.

Classes are roughly in balance, whys not as in price?
It's just absurd to have to pay more for a same level of efficiency.



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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #16 on: April 08, 2012, 11:31:46 pm »
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I'm a first gen noob using a cheap str 7 armor, a light xbow and steel bolts with an arabian warhorse. I went from 20k to 6k over the course of 3 days. Something regarding horse upkeep changes and it's causing me to go broke. I understand having to pay upkeep, but this is just ridiculous. Now horses are just old-genners only?

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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2012, 11:38:11 pm »
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Now horses are just old-genners only?

I am currently gen 13  :wink:

this may be an unlucky generation  :lol:
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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2012, 02:03:47 am »
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what makes you think they are on steroids ? horses in game are already much slower and less maneuverable than real life horses
hell horses ingame got pretty weak bump damage compared to real life horses as well

Yeah, but in real life they're not mountain goats, they can't climb ladders or stairs, not to mention that ingame they take no damage whatsoever no matter how many people they bump or how fast they ram a wall, a courser can go full speed at a wall and all he'll do is strike a pose, I can easily counter-argue your points, so your point is kind of moot.

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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2012, 08:14:08 pm »
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Yeah, but in real life they're not mountain goats, they can't climb ladders or stairs, not to mention that ingame they take no damage whatsoever no matter how many people they bump or how fast they ram a wall, a courser can go full speed at a wall and all he'll do is strike a pose, I can easily counter-argue your points, so your point is kind of moot.

Horses don't run into walls in real life...most stairs and ladders are not able to be climbed by horses in game.  A horse would run your ass over and not think twice about it, it certainly would hurt itself (unless it twisted it's ankle as it punched a hole in your chest). 

You have no points.  I'll give you two to start with:  Horses have stamina in real life, they can't run top speed forever.  They also can become uncontrollable to the rider if they get hit with arrows (not to mention they can buck the rider, so three points for you).  There are historical accounts of horses riding through their own infantry lines because they got hit with arrows and freaked the fuck out.
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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #20 on: April 12, 2012, 11:04:44 pm »
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If your total cost is less then or around 25k you should be fine. Just wear some leather armor. And luck plays a big part of it, like someone else said, you'll notice the negatives but not the positives. A little tip I can give you is to buy a rouncey, and when you are in the x4 or x5 range, whip out your courser, but when you're not doing so well, just use the rouncey.
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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2012, 05:21:20 pm »
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Yes courser costs a large amount in repairs
It should, it's fast and durable

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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2012, 12:27:34 am »
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it is fast, but the price of repair and purchase does not match.

If I look at the site, it is, for me, ranked in the middle range compared to others.

The problem is that it costs as much as an transitional armor and more expensive than a Flamberge.
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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2012, 06:23:11 pm »
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I agree, I'm not constantly on horseback because the repairs returning too often
and it's not normal, repairs as too recurring despite last updated must still slightly decrease the recurrence.
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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2012, 02:07:11 pm »
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Yeah, but in real life they're not mountain goats, they can't climb ladders or stairs, not to mention that ingame they take no damage whatsoever no matter how many people they bump or how fast they ram a wall, a courser can go full speed at a wall and all he'll do is strike a pose, I can easily counter-argue your points, so your point is kind of moot.

So if I punch you in the belly with my fist, my fist takes damage? The horse is hitting pedestrian's vulnerable places with what is likely the highly tough chest structure, or hooves, and it is MUCH larger to boot. If you want to be accurate, for horses to take 1 damage from bump, bump has to instakill with 500 damage. The only reason horses are so weak is that devs do not favour the class, not from actual field tests.

If you don't believe that, film some evidence of you being hit by a horse at full speed and walking off. I will foot the horses vet bill if there is any, but your medical bill has to be paid by yourself. Horses in crpg are made of sponges or tissue paper compared to real horses.

And there were/are several mountain cav units in history that were designed to operate in mountains, including climbing slopes (maybe not the 80% slopes we see in some random maps though).

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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2012, 02:46:07 pm »
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THE HORSE IS NO LONGER OP !

Yes it is.

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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2012, 08:26:18 pm »
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show me a real horse that can move like a champion arab warhorse with 8 riding

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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2012, 04:14:04 am »
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Yes it is.

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Re: Revise the horses system repair please.
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2012, 04:46:34 am »
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So if I punch you in the belly with my fist, my fist takes damage?

Haven't taken physics now have you?



On another note, this is game balance discussion. Realism arguments do not count here.