Finally puttin them weeaboos to rest

[Digglez]

katana is a cut/slicing weapon, not CHOPPING weapon.  Proper form dictates you pull the sword back during the hit, because blade is like a razor not a meat cleaver.

but i'm surprised in the video it only bent instead of shattering

[djavo]

That video is full of bullshit 

"oh look, swords can cut vegetables" 

Stop it at 2:12, the ice block is pre-cut for the "samurai sword" Using this term also makes it very professional and accurate. 

Also the longsword isn't used properly to cut against what is claimed to be "leather armor"

I'd go on and on but we pointed stuff out like this on IRC a few times, cba to re-write everything.

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[Largg]

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That is the same as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ECH9bDq2PE

Only that kid in my video is more skilled tbh.

That guy in your vid Thomek would get shanked pretty fucking quick if he went for a fucking arabesque mid fight, you'd just slice him out of the air. I may well go Jav chucker next gen, I miss our late night sessions, javelin vs jarid and then short sword vs katana, all alone on the map edge


OMFG had to edit when I started it to watch that, I got as far as 35 seconds when the narrator said the technology developed at the same time! AHAHAHAHAHA! Celtic backswater tribesmen made similar steel to japanese 11th century steel 400 years BC! By the 11th century european steel so outstripped japanese steel that any realistic comparison is ridiculous:

GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD that ANY modern test is also useless since the blacksmith who makes the japanese blades is NEVER going to forge a blade with authentic japanese steel! Why would they? Its SHIT and there is VERY little of it. The iron found is japan is VERY limited, thats WHY katana's had to be lap forged, else they would be TOTALLY useless. The ancient europeans did the same thing mainly because technology had NOT progressed. 600 years BEFORE the katana was institutionalised as a japanese noble's last line of defence, in the DARK AGES of europe the northern europeans (Vikings were not a warrior ppl, they developed arts, navigation and metalwork to put the rest of europe to shame. They also settled Greenland, for all you "Global warming" believers out there) had developed steel forging to the point they were using lap and braid forging for blades, allowing fullers while maintaining blade strengh.

In the hands of a trained swordsman (Remember, European nobles also started their martial training when "knee high", and were avid fighters, none of this hollywood swing it like a club bullshit) the longsword is more than a match for the katana: It allows better piercing, is less likely to be disabled due to suction once youve stuck it in someone, if the two blades meet repeatedly the katana will start to deform and most likely break. The longsword is also double edged, and has a larger guard. The katana is....the best they came up with, it looks good, kinda works. European technology destroyed japans fuedal culture, and it came from their culture being very conservative.

Im neither scandinavian nor japanese so this isnt some weird nationalistic rant or something, but circa the year 1000, Europeans had the catapult and crossbow, the longsword and chainmail. The japanese had wooden armour....

I understand your point but you're going a bit over the line there. Especially the last sentence about wooden armour of the japanese. I recommend reading this: http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_jpn_armour.html

Underlining one sentence:

No matter what you have seen or heard, Japanese armour never was made of wood (except in the case of some of the earliest cuirasses) or bamboo. The materials were leather and iron (steel in later periods), or a combination of both.

[BlindGuy]

Ok so WOODEN armour was a slight overstatement, and of course with being so close to china the technology of the leather and iron llamellar construction they had used since before the baby jesus would have permiated.