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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2012, 05:59:10 pm »
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After seeing Rustyspoon reborn with his new build, I'm getting very tempted to respec to 21/21 or 24/18 pure 1h. I'm just hesitating to lose 35 million exp, though.


At level 33, 21/21, 24/18, and 27/15 all seem very tempting.

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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2012, 07:10:35 pm »
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I play a hybrid 21-15 thrower/1h so 5 WM split between throwing and 1h for about 105-115 wpf in each, so basically the same as a 0 WM.

You will be fine as long as you have decent footwork/timing and  maybe use a fast-ish weapon to compensate (I use broad 1h axe). Against a really good blocker you might have problems (so would anyone tho) but you can outlast them for a while with your shield and eventually they might mess up if you're changing up your timing and combos on them. Basically if you are able to play 1h without crutching on spamming a 150 WPF scimitar, you will be ok. I'm not the best player but when I'm playing well I can get into top 3 on  charts.

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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #17 on: February 25, 2012, 04:55:47 am »
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DONT DO IT SAN!! YOU WILL REGRET IT.. FOREVER!!!!!!

Just make an alt? What is your build right now? A one or two skill point (+1 PS/1+ ath) difference wouldn't be worth it.

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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #18 on: February 25, 2012, 05:33:00 am »
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This is my current build. I usually spawn with an Iberian Mace, so 1h is probably the one I use the most, but I switch a lot between all types through looting. I have very, very rarely any problems with anyone swinging faster than me, and that's usually because I tried to sneak in a hit. This build has shown me that having more than 100 wpf, really doesn't do very much. Your problem is probably that you are getting outranged or hesitate or something.
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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #19 on: February 25, 2012, 05:59:37 am »
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Last Gen I went 21/21 max power-strike and athletics with 3 shield and it worked out alright.
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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2012, 06:00:20 am »
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Last gen I went 0 wm shielder.

24/15
8 ps, 5 ath, 5 shield, 5 if

I used an Elite Scimitar and I honestly had no trouble with weapon speed. I don't know if it would be different with a slower 1h, but with a fast one you won't notice much of a difference.

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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2012, 09:30:22 pm »
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I'll report how it is when I hit 30 with 0wm

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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2012, 04:59:35 am »
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I respecced at 32 again, and decided to go with a 0 WM build. It is working fantastically.

I'll probably eventually get some WM, just to help reduce the upkeep on my weapons (assuming I don't respec at 32 again, which I might).

Code: [Select]
    Strength: 27
    Agility: 15

    Unused skill points: 1

    Skills to attributes: 12

    Power Strike: 9
    Shield: 5
    Athletics: 5

    One Handed: 113
« Last Edit: February 28, 2012, 05:05:22 am by Vodner »

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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2012, 06:27:49 am »
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Well as I hit 30 today I was pwning pretty well.  Build seems like a success. Next question:  Should I trade my masterpiece white heavy norman shield for a masterpiece heavy round shield?

Masterpiece White Heavy Norman Shield
weight: 8.5
body armor: 18
difficulty: 4
hit points: 533
speed rating: 87
shield height: 95
shield width: 25

The +3 white heavy norman shield is a beast, and works nicely with my 4 shield skill as it rarely breaks.  However a heavy round shield is desirable since it provides better protection from being nailed by hits on my sides since the norman shield is fairly skinny, and the heavy round shield is also a little bit lighter.

Pros for trading for a +3 heavy round shield:
-superior all around protection
-slightly lighter weight, for increased movement speed
-slightly cheaper upkeep

Cons
-a good chunk less hit points, wont last as long, especially with my lower shield skill

What say you?
« Last Edit: February 28, 2012, 06:30:38 am by ponyboy »

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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2012, 06:52:58 am »
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Well as I hit 30 today I was pwning pretty well.  Build seems like a success. Next question:  Should I trade my masterpiece white heavy norman shield for a masterpiece heavy round shield?

Masterpiece White Heavy Norman Shield
weight: 8.5
body armor: 18
difficulty: 4
hit points: 533
speed rating: 87
shield height: 95
shield width: 25

The +3 white heavy norman shield is a beast, and works nicely with my 4 shield skill as it rarely breaks.  However a heavy round shield is desirable since it provides better protection from being nailed by hits on my sides since the norman shield is fairly skinny, and the heavy round shield is also a little bit lighter.

Pros for trading for a +3 heavy round shield:
-superior all around protection
-slightly lighter weight, for increased movement speed
-slightly cheaper upkeep

Cons
-a good chunk less hit points, wont last as long, especially with my lower shield skill

What say you?

Honestly, the heavy round isn't going to give you much extra protection on the sides. It's quite easy to hit around it and I don't think you'll notice a difference in that regard if you switch. You probably wouldn't notice much of a difference in movement speed either.

Honestly, I'd stick with the Norman as long as you don't mind it being 2 slots. The added weight also gives you more protection from shield stun.

The only reasons I use a heavy round shield are that it looks cool and a MW one is almost as good as a stock Huscarl and it only takes up 1 slot.
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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #25 on: March 03, 2012, 11:59:15 am »
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I respecced at 32 again, and decided to go with a 0 WM build. It is working fantastically.

I'll probably eventually get some WM, just to help reduce the upkeep on my weapons (assuming I don't respec at 32 again, which I might).

Code: [Select]
    Strength: 27
    Agility: 15

    Unused skill points: 1

    Skills to attributes: 12

    Power Strike: 9
    Shield: 5
    Athletics: 5

    One Handed: 113

Oh shit SaulCanner went Strength crutch.

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Re: Anyone tried 0wm with 1hander?
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2012, 01:05:58 pm »
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I would go for 24/15 with full IF instead of 27/15.
I played 24/15 with full IF and no WM a long time. It's very nice.

(I test a 21/18 with WM and lighter armor now. Hm... imho the weapon has a little better responsiveness. Battle seems to be easier. I know the WM 0 discussion and voted very often for WM 0. We will see. But 24/15 with IF and no WM is great!)
« Last Edit: March 03, 2012, 04:26:00 pm by Kherr »