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Offline Cup1d

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Elder's weapon bonus
« on: February 09, 2012, 01:13:50 pm »
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Fauchard
weapon length: 172
weight: 3
difficulty: 7
speed rating: 90
weapon length: 172
thrust damage: 22 pierce
swing damage: 28 cut
slots: 2


Elder's Fauchard
weapon length: 172
weight: 3
difficulty: 7
speed rating: 91 (+1)
weapon length: 172
thrust damage: 25 pierce (+3)
swing damage: 32 cut (+4)
slots: 2


Can I have Elder's Bec de Corbin, or Shortened military scythe? Please.
I hope this weapon have both thrust and slash attack on horseback...
« Last Edit: February 09, 2012, 01:15:07 pm by Cup1d »

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Re: Elder's weapon bonus
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2012, 02:43:39 am »
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Weapons that get the Elder bonus are mostly absolute garbage unless you're just messing around anyway. Even fauchard is pretty damn low damage, and with the Elder bonus it's nothing spectacular. +3 fauchard has 7 less swing damage than a standard glaive and only 12 length more. Why would you call for (I assume this is what you're doing) a nerf on some of the shittiest weapons in game?  :lol:

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Re: Elder's weapon bonus
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2012, 06:45:36 am »
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Damn, I'd love that on my practice longsword, right now it's just :

Practice Longsword
weapon length: 117
weight: 1.5
speed rating: 94
weapon length: 117
thrust damage: 14 blunt
swing damage: 18 blunt
slots: 2
Secondary Mode

Elder's Practice Longsword
weapon length: 117
weight: 1.5
speed rating: 95(+1)
weapon length: 117
thrust damage: 16 blunt(+2)
swing damage: 21 blunt (+3)
slots: 2
Secondary Mode
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Re: Elder's weapon bonus
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2012, 11:16:12 am »
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Weapons that get the Elder bonus are mostly absolute garbage unless you're just messing around anyway. Even fauchard is pretty damn low damage, and with the Elder bonus it's nothing spectacular. +3 fauchard has 7 less swing damage than a standard glaive and only 12 length more. Why would you call for (I assume this is what you're doing) a nerf on some of the shittiest weapons in game?  :lol:

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Only 12 lenght more? How long did you play this game? This is perfect weapon for agile character. With same stab damage as bamboo spear, but with sideswings. Combine it with 7 requirement (compare with 16 requirement for Glaive). And do not forget about shitty price.

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Yes, but Katana with starting 16 pierce stab receive only +1 to stab at MW level.

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Re: Elder's weapon bonus
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2012, 12:29:16 pm »
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Didn't know the elder's weapons got that nice loom bonuses. But I don't think it's much of a problem. Although seeing the Elder's Practice Longsword having the same stab as a katana is funny, from a realism standpoint.

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Re: Elder's weapon bonus
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2012, 06:36:59 pm »
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Only 12 lenght more? How long did you play this game? This is perfect weapon for agile character. With same stab damage as bamboo spear, but with sideswings. Combine it with 7 requirement (compare with 16 requirement for Glaive). And do not forget about shitty price.

I meant "only" in comparison to the massive damage difference. 7:12 damage:range is not a good trade at all. And that's comparing a +3 fauchard to an UNLOOMED glaive. Loomed glaive would be 10:12. And yes, a +3 fauchard has the same damage as bamboo spear, but +3 bamboo spear has far more, and 28 more range. If damage and range are considered equal trades, then can we cut 40 range off my pike for an additional 40 damage please?  :P

The damage on this thing is awful. An extreme agi build will glance off anything more than light armor on the swings. Just leave it be. Oh and just in case you didn't notice, the scythe gets the same bonus, and for that you trade only 1 less damage for 10 more range than even the fauchard, yet you would be hard pressed to find someone using such a horribly OP weapon as the +3 scythe.  :lol:
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Re: Elder's weapon bonus
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2012, 11:28:37 pm »
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if you wanna suggesting about scythe as example - do not forget about scythe's pity 14p thrust and pity 84 speed. Also scythe cannot be sheathed.

Fauchard is good enough without this crazy bonuses

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Re: Elder's weapon bonus
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2012, 02:39:57 am »
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fauchard can be sheated now???

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So the new response to ranged ragers is not "get a shield", it is "learn to chamber ranged nub!"
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