Give Spear back horse-rearing ability

[Cyclopsided]

I think Marathon recorded some from his angle on horseback, too, but I'm not sure if he deleted those after compiling before or what. I'd say just from looks (blood appearing) the horse was taking damage, though. I think we also got some stuff of the Military Fork (the 1 slot fork) not rearing.

I deleted them because it looks better from the footman's point of view.
They take damage, Lots of damage; just doesn't rear the horse. Nothing shorter than 150 length is stopping them. Used with shield or not.
By bug or design, it isn't happening.

The argument is that spears SHOULD rear them (and used to).

[Vexus]

Not all under 150 length don't stop horses the boar spear for example rears I tested it myself.

But yes they should rear.

[Blackzilla]

(not sure if its been suggested)
If you're not going to allow it to rear horses. Then at least make the spear one slot.

[cmp]

Found why this happens.
In 1.143 they changed it a bit, weapons need to be more than 140 long and deal pierce damage, and horse speed needs to be 3m/s instead of 4m/s. Didn't spot it before because I was working with 1.134 code.
Although that means it shouldn't rear in Native either.

[Jarlek]

Found why this happens.
In 1.143 they changed it a bit, weapons need to be more than 140 long and deal pierce damage, and horse speed needs to be 3m/s instead of 4m/s. Didn't spot it before because I was working with 1.134 code.
Although that means it shouldn't rear in Native either.

http://wiki.c-rpg.net/index.php?title=Polearms#Horse_rearing
Is this correct now? I just edited in the new info. Would also like you to check if the Polestagger info is correct.

[Okkam]

maybe it's good time to add some more short, 1 slot polearms?

[Cyclopsided]

Found why this happens.
In 1.143 they changed it a bit, weapons need to be more than 140 long and deal pierce damage, and horse speed needs to be 3m/s instead of 4m/s. Didn't spot it before because I was working with 1.134 code.
Although that means it shouldn't rear in Native either.

Maybe the Native server I tested it on wasn't updated fully or something.
Good to know what happened though.

[Malaclypse]

I take it those criteria don't take into effect bonus +shield length, then, which is unfortunate.  The Spear easily clears 140 in hoplite mode and is a pierce weapon.

In any case, it's good to know the source of this rather than have it remain a mystery. I hope that someday all pierce thrust polearms are able to rear. Thanks for taking time out to look this stuff up, cmp.