Upper and lower strike for some polearm

[Tennenoth]

I can't focus on anything aside from how ridiculous that outfit is.

It's what your char would be wearing if you were in WFaS! 

[Gurnisson]

No thanks. Pikes are good enough already.

[Xant]

So their ability to team work is overpowered because you don't want to team work?  How can it be a balance argument if your comparison isn't even balanced?  If you were saying that 2 pikeman would be able to beat 2 people of every other (or even just most other) possible variations then I would agree, but 2 on 2, the pikemen will still have plenty of weaknesses

There's a difference between teamwork and I-Win card. As it is, teamwork is rewarded and gets you free kills. But it takes skill. It DOESN'T take skill or any particular "teamwork" to spam up thrust while your pardner spams low thrust. Yes it's 2 people against 1, but you really want to turn it into a numbers game? Why play in the first place, let's just have an "auto-resolve" like in Total War.

[Gisbert_of_Thuringia]

You can't do it because of balance reasons. No way to defend against two pikers stabbing at the same time. Combined with the huge reach this would make the pike and long spear way overpowered.

It would be the same like two piker against you, one stabbing and one doing an overhead ;)

The overhead animation would just be replaced by this upper stab, still blocking with upper block (which would be like pushing the pike upwards above your head as a block)

[Xant]

No, a swinging overhead like they had before was a lot worse than what a stab overhead would be. And still it was too good. As it is, pikes and long spears are good enough.

[Zerran]

Two direction attacks requiring two block directions would be OP, I remember the horror of trying to face off against a Chaos longspear wall when they had 2 attack directions in battle. Compromise might be to give pikes and longspears a secondary mode, still using a thrust which requires a downblock, but make it overhead and perhaps slightly reduce speed and damage. This would make it a lot easier to maneuver it around friendlies, especially on sloped terrain where it can be a real pain. Would also make it easier to hit cav riders w/o a clumsy jump.

[dodnet]

Haven't read the thread but I would like to throw in that the overhead stab animation in WFAS looks totally stupid and unrealistic.