Author Topic: What weapon in crpg u hate most?  (Read 7456 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Gorath

  • Count
  • *****
  • Renown: 226
  • Infamy: 168
  • cRPG Player
  • Why the hell did I do anything other than ranged?
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Chaos
  • Game nicks: The threat of physical violence should be present in all things
  • IRC nick: Otherwise we get a swarm of faggot children like the majority of the cRPG/Internet population
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #75 on: November 03, 2011, 04:07:55 pm »
+1
Yes, I'm fully aware of the Maciejowski Bible illustrations of the weapon but pray tell me on which of those pictures you see the 2h monstrosity that is in the game ?  :wink: The in-game model has a much too long blade and the handle is much too short, the 1h variants are pretty spot on, however.
Well join me in my crusade to have the devs replace the 2h cleaver with a more accurate version which acts more like the langes messer.  1h/2h and uses x to swap between the two modes.   :wink:

Also, this:
Weapons are fine, animations are bad.
And I should be nice or polite to anyone.... why exactly?

Offline Bobthehero

  • Duke
  • *******
  • Renown: 515
  • Infamy: 195
  • cRPG Player
  • Grandmaster Ultimate God Of Swashbucklin'
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Bridgeburners
  • Game nicks: Bobthehero_Whals and I am totally not all the Not_Bobthehero alts ever.
  • IRC nick: Buff Swashbuckling
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #76 on: November 03, 2011, 04:09:57 pm »
+1
@those who believe 2 hander cleaver don't exist/no proof: Boink, maciejowski bible visitors can't see pics , please register or login
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
The Narwhals, dedicated swashbuckler part of FCC


Stabbing is my speciality and one hitting people, my art

Offline Arkatos

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Renown: 1
  • Infamy: 0
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
  • Game nicks: Arkatos1
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #77 on: November 03, 2011, 04:25:41 pm »
0
Every weapon with knockdown.

^.^
Hurr durr, kill them all! Oops, killing teamate.

Offline Ragni_Bross

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 69
  • Infamy: 54
  • cRPG Player
  • "At the end of a smile there's a laugh and a half"
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Militia
  • Game nicks: Militia_Iwarad
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #78 on: November 03, 2011, 04:41:39 pm »
+3
The hilt-slash is lame not just for realism reasons. 

First of all, there is a difference between a "realism vs balance discussion" and a game that plays like a circus.  Getting slashed by a wooden haft is ridiculous no matter how to look at it...regardless of realism or balance. 
It's like having horses bump you before they actually touch you.  "Boo-hoo..whine about it in realism!"  No, that shit would just be ridiculous.  Same with hilt-slashing.  You are getting hit when you shouldn't.  It's a circus.  It's absurd.

Second of all, in terms of balance, a long weapon should not be able to hit someone who is point-blank on top of you.  I don't care of its a lol-jump-spin-stab or a hilt-slash.  One of the disadvantages of longer weapons is that they bounce/glance if the enemy is too close.  That is also one of the advantages of short weapons. Hilt-slashing disturbs this balance.

So yes..this is annoying as hell and should be looked at.

First of all: Amen.

Secondly: Am I the only one thinking that the Swiss halberbs and bills are waaaaaaaaay too fast? Those stabs just make no sense at all.

Thirdly: Did any of you ever play Vikingr? I really liked the combat in Vikingr because it made sense in every way. The majority of the players used swords/spears/axes and shields and then there'd be a few brave ones using slow but extremely potent 2handed weapons. Everything had its advantages and weaknesses.

Offline Fartface

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 476
  • Infamy: 288
  • cRPG Player
  • Centurii
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Deathcore,Djentcore,Deathmetal,Brutal,Slam
  • Game nicks: Growling,Grunting,Screaming,Squeeling
  • IRC nick: Fuck I love it.
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #79 on: November 03, 2011, 05:00:10 pm »
+2
First of all: Amen.

Secondly: Am I the only one thinking that the Swiss halberbs and bills are waaaaaaaaay too fast? Those stabs just make no sense at all.

Thirdly: Did any of you ever play Vikingr? I really liked the combat in Vikingr because it made sense in every way. The majority of the players used swords/spears/axes and shields and then there'd be a few brave ones using slow but extremely potent 2handed weapons. Everything had its advantages and weaknesses.
I totaly AGREE on the 3rd one .
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Teeth

  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 2550
  • Infamy: 1057
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Bishop A Gentleman and a Scholar
    • View Profile
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #80 on: November 03, 2011, 05:02:47 pm »
0
First of all: Amen.

Secondly: Am I the only one thinking that the Swiss halberbs and bills are waaaaaaaaay too fast? Those stabs just make no sense at all.

Thirdly: Did any of you ever play Vikingr? I really liked the combat in Vikingr because it made sense in every way. The majority of the players used swords/spears/axes and shields and then there'd be a few brave ones using slow but extremely potent 2handed weapons. Everything had its advantages and weaknesses.
Funny that you say amen to that. If there is anyone that comes to mind that hiltslashes and hiltslashes with a polearm it's you.

Also, combat should get an enormous overhaul. Give us the gritty, in your face, full contact combat that medieval combat actually was. Start with replacing the kick with a pommel strike for 2h and a shieldbash for shielders.

Offline Ragni_Bross

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 69
  • Infamy: 54
  • cRPG Player
  • "At the end of a smile there's a laugh and a half"
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Militia
  • Game nicks: Militia_Iwarad
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #81 on: November 03, 2011, 05:06:16 pm »
+2
Funny that you say amen to that. If there is anyone that comes to mind that hiltslashes and hiltslashes with a polearm it's you.

Also, combat should get an enormous overhaul. Give us the gritty, in your face, full contact combat that medieval combat actually was. Start with replacing the kick with a pommel strike for 2h and a shieldbash for shielders.

I know that I do hiltslashes myself, but that doesn't mean I'd mind getting rid off them for good :) I think they ruin the gameplay, but hey they work, so that's why I use 'em :P

Offline Laufknoten

  • Earl
  • ******
  • Renown: 480
  • Infamy: 63
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Pawn
  • BOAT OF ANGER FLOATING ON THE SEA OF TEARS
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Burg Krems
  • Game nicks: Felipe
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #82 on: November 03, 2011, 06:15:21 pm »
0
I totaly AGREE on the 3rd one .
The problem is that the majority of 2h's want an even faster game speed to make their light saber-fights more challenging... Btw, a light saber is a good comparison to the current sweetspot mechanic of the 2h-swords. :D
visitors can't see pics , please register or login

Offline Ragni_Bross

  • Knight
  • ***
  • Renown: 69
  • Infamy: 54
  • cRPG Player
  • "At the end of a smile there's a laugh and a half"
    • View Profile
  • Faction: Militia
  • Game nicks: Militia_Iwarad
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #83 on: November 03, 2011, 06:17:52 pm »
0
The problem is that the majority of 2h's want an even faster game speed to make their light saber-fights more challenging... Btw, a light saber is a good comparison to the current sweetspot mechanic of the 2h-swords. :D

The majority of the 2hs are idiots :P

Offline Xant

  • Finnish Pony
  • King
  • **********
  • Renown: 1552
  • Infamy: 803
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #84 on: November 03, 2011, 08:54:10 pm »
0
The majority of the 2hs are idiots :P

Bahahahahhaahha.... ahahahahhaa....... AHAHAHHA... cant breath
Meaning lies as much
in the mind of the reader
as in the Haiku.

Offline HuskerRall

  • Peasant
  • *
  • Renown: 7
  • Infamy: 4
  • cRPG Player
    • View Profile
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #85 on: November 03, 2011, 09:19:27 pm »
0
all weapons are OK, everything can be counter

but all Jump-Swingers especially pikes and spears are bundle of stickss, there..you can still block them, but they just look silly and geh
« Last Edit: November 03, 2011, 09:21:51 pm by HuskerRall »

Offline Kalp

  • Marshall
  • ********
  • Renown: 750
  • Infamy: 253
  • cRPG Player Sir Black Bishop A Gentleman and a Scholar
  • Form ranks, you maggots!
    • View Profile
    • Kahhhaaargaar!!! Uuurrr!!!
  • Faction: Grey Order
  • Game nicks: Kalp_the_Grey
  • IRC nick: Kalp
Re: What weapon in crpg u hate most?
« Reply #86 on: November 03, 2011, 09:24:57 pm »
0
Quote
pikes and spears are bundle of stickss
visitors can't see pics , please register or login
The goal of Strategus battles shouldnt be to deprive your enemies of players, but to have full roster both sides and have the gear/tactics/strategy win the day rather than lack of merc support.