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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #15 on: June 11, 2015, 03:28:26 pm »
Just bring back ladders and all of these problems are solved.

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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #16 on: June 11, 2015, 06:47:58 pm »
That's not entirely true. Because, at first, most maps were pretty much open. Then Mustikki (who was at that time map manager) and others started "fixing" them by adding invisible walls to places which were considered as exploitable. Just because some places haven't been fixed by invisible wall, doesn't mean it is okay to abuse it.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not in favor of limiting the gameplay and I'm especially against invisible walls. Those places OP posted are all relatively easily reachable and most of the people know how to reach them and which tools to use. But devs themselves have stated their view on this by putting invisible walls on maps and not allowing access normally to most roofs. Sometimes their intention to "fix" things reaches pretty extreme levels, for example, there is a map where it is impossible to come near certain building because there is a porch nearby. Some braniac has put invisible wall all around that specific area (around the porch), had a laugh when I spotted it :lol:

This discussion should be moved to General Discussion sub.

to me if devs removed ladders its for stop giving spots who give huge advantage.
and the spot im showing in screens are just missing invisible walls.

and last time i made similar thread it finished in flooding section ... so i took my chance on this one.

i just want a simple yes or no from an admin. just to know if i can poll kick one of those roof camper or not when there is no admin on server.

Honestly, no it would not be a glitch.
It is merely a place that the developers did not have in mind when creating the map.

It'd be a glitch if you had to use some exploits, like jumping against a wall which magically bounces you back if you hit the right spot over some other wall to get underneath the map or out of bounds or whatever.


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about it's glitch or not i just dont find the proper word but to me it's not legit acces if you prefer
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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #17 on: June 11, 2015, 08:03:34 pm »
Honestly, no it would not be a glitch.

Using a bug or something not provided by the game to gain an advantage is a glitch.
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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #18 on: June 11, 2015, 11:11:09 pm »
and again today, this archer on top of arch, the red 2hander tried to jump to go catch him he got shot ....
impossible for him to reach the archer....
then one enemie came in back of the red 2hander the archer shot the 2hander when he was figthing a shielder....

dont tell me it's not unreachable spot

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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #19 on: June 11, 2015, 11:30:44 pm »
Using a bug or something not provided by the game to gain an advantage is a glitch.

Exactly my point. That is why getting on these rooftops is not a glitch.
You get there by jumping on a wall and then on a rooftop.
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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #20 on: June 12, 2015, 12:12:06 am »
and again today, this archer on top of arch, the red 2hander tried to jump to go catch him he got shot ....
impossible for him to reach the archer....
then one enemie came in back of the red 2hander the archer shot the 2hander when he was figthing a shielder....

dont tell me it's not unreachable spot

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That's me!!!
These are simple run and jumps, reachable if you know how to do them.
And yeah i did shoot the guy in the red, not my fault if he wants to be stupid and try to kill me with no shield.


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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2015, 02:24:18 am »
but it's giving you a crazy advantage? be honest

how to deal with this when no ranged alive or shielder  alive in other team ?

just learn to play fair get some balls instead camping like a pussy

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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #22 on: June 12, 2015, 02:25:50 am »
What really needs to be done is a revision of the current maps in rotation and block off spots like that.
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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #23 on: June 12, 2015, 02:29:12 am »
What really needs to be done is a revision of the current maps in rotation and block off spots like that.

so if those spots need to be fixed that mean they are not suposed to be reachable ?
and it make them unreachable? so they are forbiden ?
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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #24 on: June 12, 2015, 02:32:08 am »
so if those spots need to be fixed that mean they are not suposed to be reachable ?
and it make them unreachable? so they are forbiden ?

While I see it as a problem, they are not doing anything a normal person can not do. Yes it sucks and the spots should be sealed off, but personally I wouldnt ban someone for doing it. That is just me though. I am saying this as a polearm user that never uses a shield and can not stand when people do this. The only time I would kick for it is if someone launched them up there with a siege shield and there is absolutely no other way of getting there.

On a side note, I think this thread should be moved to suggestions with a poll, as this is more of a discussion rather than a ban request.
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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2015, 03:08:03 am »
While I see it as a problem, they are not doing anything a normal person can not do. Yes it sucks and the spots should be sealed off, but personally I wouldnt ban someone for doing it. That is just me though. I am saying this as a polearm user that never uses a shield and can not stand when people do this. The only time I would kick for it is if someone launched them up there with a siege shield and there is absolutely no other way of getting there.

On a side note, I think this thread should be moved to suggestions with a poll, as this is more of a discussion rather than a ban request.
well till the thread dont finish in the spam section like my old one why not.

but i think i will have to learn maping on warband to fix this...
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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2015, 03:21:26 am »
well till the thread dont finish in the spam section like my old one why not.

but i think i will have to learn maping on warband to fix this...

You and me both, I tried it out one time but could not really figure out what I was doing. There has been a few things in maps that bothered me that need fixing that I would not mind fixing if I knew how. Might look into learning soon. Plus I have always wanted to make a map :)
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Re: Banable or not ?
« Reply #27 on: June 15, 2015, 12:42:21 am »
Please take this to General Discussion now guys, Depends on the situation if it is bannable or not.

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