Long Spiked Club needs to be looked at

[Digglez]

30 pierce on a weapon that costs 4k and has 126 reach and 96 speed?  Overpowered much?

Here is a little diagram I made to compare weapons with similar damage to the club.  Note that the SPEAR weapon, designed for thrusting and made with a 4" metal forged head does less pierce damage than a wiffleball bat w/nails in it.

Similar to how MMO's compare stats on equipment you have equipped:  Green values means that weapon does better than the LSC where RED means it is WORSE

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[Huscarlton_Banks]

I wouldn't try to directly compare swings and stabs.

There are a few more things to consider too:

LSC doesn't get a speed rating bonus from heirlooming.
Blunt stabs can't rear.
Pierce swings can't knockdown.

With all of that in mind LSC looks kind of crappy compared to bec's secondary mode.

[Wraist]

Also spear and pick can be used with a shield which is a huge+, and comparing weapon lengths across different types is more trickier than a straight comparison. That being said, that weapon is much better than I would've thought, but than again, I don't think they actually balance based off of price for most items.

[Algarn]

You know you are making a comparison between polearms, 1h, and 2H weapons, right ? Also, if it was so powerful, everyone would use it, it isn't the case at all, since there are only spears, poleaxes/bardiches, pikes/longspears, and the bec de corbin that are widely used. No need to change anything on this weapon, since everything huscarlton posted are real drawbacks that penalize you if you take this weapon over higher tier polearms.

[Teeth]

You should be ashamed to make a comparison like this a balance argument after playing this game for so long. That said, the speed or the damage could probably use a slight narf. Looks like a pretty fine siege weapon, especially at that price.

[Lennu]

I always thought it as a shitty weapon until it was made balanced again. Now it's barely useable, and only because of it's low price 

[Digglez]

You know you are making a comparison between polearms, 1h, and 2H weapons, right ? Also, if it was so powerful, everyone would use it, it isn't the case at all, since there are only spears, poleaxes/bardiches, pikes/longspears, and the bec de corbin that are widely used. No need to change anything on this weapon, since everything huscarlton posted are real drawbacks that penalize you if you take this weapon over higher tier polearms.

well since you are a mental retard let me spell it out for you....it was comparing other weapons that do that amount of damage, 30 pierce...which can 2 shot most players

[MURDERTRON]

This is the only change that needs to be made.

http://forum.melee.org/suggestions-corner/rename-long-spiked-club/

[Algarn]

well since you are a mental retard let me spell it out for you....it was comparing other weapons that do that amount of damage, 30 pierce...which can 2 shot most players

Firstly, fuck off about calling someone a retard because he thinks your comparison is bad. Since 1h, 2h, and polearms do not have the same animations, therefore the same speed bonus, and every weapon you listed in your bad comparison don't got the same effectiveness when it comes to different situations. You are actually being the retard here.