Couldn't halfswording use a buff?

[WITCHCRAFT]

They get caught on walls as easy as polearm swings :/

I was wondering specifically about the short 2H like bastard sword and longsword. Is ~100 length in polearm mode better than 2H in close quarters? Worse?

[Senni__Ti]

When playing siege with my 2h + danish, I tend to switch to halfswording when on the walls/corridors. It's quite a bit shorter, slower and weaker, but it's better than hitting the walls all the time.

Personally I'd like to see it use 2h wpf, it's a little strange that it uses pole wpf tbh. If it got that, it'd be fine imo.

Trying to think of 2h's with secondary modes that actually use 2h wpf.
I think it's just the new one on the Persian axe?

[Rebelyell]

in my opinion it is not that bad

I had lvl 31 char 50/50 pole 2h agi build and it worked for me very well, some of that 2h weapons have superfast and powerfull polestab that can hit in face to face distance with no problem.
Swing sucks but are also easier to use in tight space and combinations of 2h and polearm atack can be veryconfusing for you enemy that often can lower theirs guard.

In my opinion problem is that you need agi build to be able maintain reasonable amount of wpf to be used competitive in fight.
Faster animation switch mid attack would be best buff for that class.

[Angantyr]

Polearm/quarterstaff type of close combat grappling technique was another strength of half-swording:

[no_rules_just_play]

The stab which should be the strongest attack of halfswording is just fucking hard to connect in crpg..

[HarunYahya]

It is absurd that Halfswording uses polearm WPF.
It should be a situational switch for 2handers afaik, there was no classification of infantry as "Halfsworders" It's situational, it's a 2handed sword technique to use in tight spots and to deliver huge pierce damages so i really don't see why it uses polearm wpf...

I was thinking it's because it has polearm animation like 3 years ago but now, thinking straight it's utter bullshit excuse.
I guess it's not being changed only because everyone branded 2h "OP class" and they don't wanna see any addition to it.

Yes, 2H is op and really easy to master compared to others but discriminating and not giving it any love is hurting me.

[WITCHCRAFT]

Having halfsword use 2H wpf instead of polearms could be interesting. It would encourage me to level up my 2H alt. He has been collecting dust for a while.

Halfswording stats would need a rework, since you would get two fighting styles for the price of 1 wpf type.

[Alaire]

Also... should make it that you need to use some type of gloves.
Otherwise when slashing one would naturally cut their own hand occasionally(self damage). If you wanted to make it more realistic and viable.

(also, used langes messer) in the 2h form, and still works very well. Just takes some time to get used to the stab distance, and a change of gameplay.

Stab when they are approaching you or close, slash when medium distance(otherwise glance with stab). If too far, just backup and wait for them to charge you.

[Utrakil]

It is absurd that Halfswording uses polearm WPF.
It should be a situational switch for 2handers afaik, there was no classification of infantry as "Halfsworders" It's situational, it's a 2handed sword technique to use in tight spots and to deliver huge pierce damages so i really don't see why it uses polearm wpf...

This!
And to balance this 2H buff we could give some poleweapons like GLAxe ,LWAxe, LHKnobbedMace or LHSpikedmace a secondary mode with a 2H-animation only for overhead with longer reach.

[korppis]

This!
And to balance this 2H buff we could give some poleweapons like GLAxe ,LWAxe, LHKnobbedMace or LHSpikedmace a secondary mode with a 2H-animation only for overhead with longer reach.

Then you'd have to make them unbalanced in that mode.

[WITCHCRAFT]

Then you'd have to make them unbalanced in that mode.

That would be kinda cool.

[Angantyr]

Good ideas, chaps. This would make both said 2h and polearms be used more realistically (changing grip on the fly) and dynamic weapon modes brings back fond memories from Jedi Outcast.

[WITCHCRAFT]

Yeah, it would be as big of an overhaul as the wpf rework but allowing 2 fighting styles with some weapons would add a ton of depth to combat (which is already more deep and nuanced than any other games in the genre atm).

As it is now, splitting 2H/pole wpf will gimp your build compared to pure 2H.

[Mr.K.]

As it is now, splitting 2H/pole wpf will gimp your build compared to pure 2H.

Gimp might be a tad harsh. I have 160 in 2H and 100 in Pole with only 7WM. That's 10 points less in 2H and a pure build would have.

[Joseph Porta]

Sure, if the stab would get nerfed, its very spammable.


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