Spain Last Month. Police blows a completely legal act and they get beaten.

[AntiBlitz]

im not sure if you read the thread about how we neutralized the unarmed old camper man, but in merica we would have terminated the entire crowd in the name of justice.  i approve.

[Trikipum]

Oh yes, i have seen that video, not the thread though. Anyway, I know shooting at unarmed persons is like a custom in USA. We are more civilizated in Europe though, We prefer stones to resolve our problems...mostly. 

[AntiBlitz]

Oh yes, i have seen that video, not the thread though. Anyway, I know shooting at unarmed persons is like a custom in USA. We are more civilizated in Europe though, We prefer stones to resolve our problems...mostly. 

i wish i was as civilizated as you guys, i want to throw rocks at the government.

[GOBBLINKINGREATLEADER]

The only thing I saw was extremely small forces of police trying to hold up against a very agressive crowd while using very limited and always justified 'violence'.

Whatever the background is, these people just were there to fight. If you need something from your government, you don't go on the streets to break down everything you see.. I get these people do it out of anger, but still...

jesus even outside of cRPG you make a total fucking mockery of your name you rule-praising obtuse shitjockey

[Teeth]

The headshoted police just got what he deserved for being just a dog.

I never get this dislike of everyone in a police uniform. What makes fellow citizen who gets a job as a police officer become 'a dog' instead of just an individual trying do his job, however poorly he may be doing it. Don't you know anyone personally who is a cop? Is he an asshole who deserves bricks thrown at his head too?

Protests that turn violent bring out the worst in people on both sides of the barricade, in the videos that you showed me, the police showed a lot of restraint and reasonably good conduct. Is wounding a few police officers and burning a few cars gonna improve the economic situation of Spain, no it isn't. Just a bunch of violent fucktards venting their anger. Spain is a democracy that functions properly according to all research organization, so hate to say it, but those who you perceive as fascists have been voted in by your fellow Spaniards.

[Kafein]

Protests that turn violent bring out the worst in people on both sides of the barricade, in the videos that you showed me, the police showed a lot of restraint and reasonably good conduct.

I'm not disagreeing with your message here, but I wonder what the baton strikes on people that flee too slowly are supposed to achieve.

[no_rules_just_play]

I'm not disagreeing with your message here, but I wonder what the baton strikes on people that flee too slowly are supposed to achieve.

that happens everywhere, they just gave a few soft strikes and that was it.

[Vibe]

Why would you shoot someone if you can do the whole medieval experience of stoning people?

[Leshma]

What is wrong with young people in Spain, they already live in developed western country run by democracy. No need for riots, even if most of them have no employment or future to look forward.

[Jeade]

Spain is a democracy that functions properly according to all research organization, so hate to say it, but those who you perceive as fascists have been voted in by your fellow Spaniards.

something something conspiracy theories

I'm a big fan of civil discourse, myself.
If you're looking to make your situation better by stoning law enforcement in the street, you're hilariously doing just the opposite.
Talk about oppression (which is subjective, mind you, as Spain is a Democracy whether you agree with this or not), but the police are likely to fight you a little harder when you stone one of their friends in the street.
They're people too, and they're likely to get angry just as you- just as the rest of the crowd is.
Nonetheless, it's the police's job to keep order and use appropriate, equal force. They're the ones truly facing a dilemma.
Violence begets violence, and an eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind.

[Xant]

What is wrong with young people in Spain, they already live in developed western country run by democracy. No need for riots, even if most of them have no employment or future to look forward.

Why would they need employment? Spain is a ridiculously cheap country to live in. Everything is 20 times cheaper than in Scandinavia.

[Leshma]

That is because in Spain they produce their own food and other stuff, not import it from god knows where. Dutch friend of mine told me there is only 2% of fertile soil in Norway, rest is just rocks. No wonder prices are insane. Being oil and gas rich country doesn't help either. He also told me that equality in Norway is a myth and that Oslo is split between rich and extremely poor. He said some parts of Oslo are exclusively populated by heroin addicts. I was quite stunned, was sure Norway was Utopian society but it seems it could be quite the opposite.

Of course, it's not like Spanish youth is completely innocent. I've read many times that Spain is lacking people with high education. Many kids didn't want to study and finish university and now they are mad there is no job for them.

[Moncho]

Despite producing certain stuff, Spain still imports more than exports, even though it is getting closer these last few years. For example we need to buy loads of energy (not just oil and gas, also electricity produced elsewhere like France), since Spain produces quite little of it. An example with renewable energies, there was a big surge in the establishment of new solar and wind plants which stopped immediately as soon as the government subsidies ended, simply because they became economically unprofitable, and I have heard of people who invested in them and are now regretting it much like with the construction bubble collapse.

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Of course, it's not like Spanish youth is completely innocent. I've read many times that Spain is lacking people with high education. Many kids didn't want to study and finish university and now they are mad there is no job for them.
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That is not entirely true. there are people like that, but there are also lots that go to University and take it as a joke, spending 10+ years in doing a degree. It is uncommon for someone to finish their degree in the 4 years it is supposed to. It is a question about mentality, around 30 years ago it was much worse, then with the coming of democracy (like it or not, it is one currently, not a perfect one, but a democracy nonetheless) the University network was expanded, it was made much more affordable (too much imo) and there have been years when tons of people go there who should not. A lot of people still just go because they can and their parents could not, not because they want to.
Also a lot of the good students leave the country because of better job offers abroad (not just EU, South America too)

I don't know how it compares to Scandinavia, but in the UK everything is about 20-30% more expensive plus the EUR-GBP exchange rate, so around 150% the cost of living in Spain. Salaries are generally higher though, so a much smaller difference when you take that into account. How do Scandinavian salaries relate? After all a better indicator than the absolute cost is imo the ability for families (people) to afford it, which with the unemployment rate increase in Spain has gone down these years.

Also, the official numbers for certain statistics (unemployment for example) are imo inflated by a significant under the radar work environment in Spain that has always existed, but has been accentuated by the lower trust in banks, the government and other things.