Spathion vs Long Arming Sword

[Penitent]

Honestly I can't imagine how that could be effective. I mean, the heat of battle, you see a fast moving guy. "Oh, he's gonna attack me, I better switch to my sword". Agi guy runs past you. "Oh he's not, where is my steel pick...".

Carrying additional 1.7 kg just for an arguable advantage of reach in some very limited cases doesn't seem worthy to me.
You'd want to have some more use of a weapon you have to carry with you all the time (like horse rearing in case of spears).

No way man.  Sometimes you just know that the guy approching from the distance is a super fast ninja dude.  Or maybe he's fighitng one of your teamies, and you see him spamming and S-keying his ass off.  You know -- he's a super fast light armored spam attack ninja machine, and you're going to have trouble hitting him.

That's when you do it.

You move your mouse wheel slightly to pull out your FLY SWATTER™.  It just takes a split second, but you go from slow-moving shield turtle to a slow-moving shield turtle with really long arms.  It helps a lot.  Try it, you might like it.

In terms of which sword to use, I always say speed is king.

[Phew]

Yeah, the benefits to carrying multiple weapons always outweigh the negatives. I'll never understand the people that run around with 2 free slots then complain about cav/archers/shielders/kiters/whatever. Bring a spear/shield/axe/xbow you idiots!

[CrazyCracka420]

To be fair Phew, Macropus did suggest using a spear/spear-like weapon as a secondary weapon.  He suggested it was more useful than carrying another 1h weapon.  But there's pro's and con's to both points of view.

[Phew]

To be fair Phew, Macropus did suggest using a spear/spear-like weapon as a secondary weapon.  He suggested it was more useful than carrying another 1h weapon.  But there's pro's and con's to both points of view.

Yeah, I wasn't disputing Macropus; a spear is the proper sidearm if deterring cavalry if your objective (although a long 1h stabbing sword is a pretty good deterrent as well). My rant was aimed more at the min-maxers with empty slots that always complain about x class.

I alternate between a broad 1h axe and a heavy xbow with my free slots, depending if I'm on siege attack or D, respectively. Those options cover nearly every scenario you're likely to encounter in siege (pierce secondary mode for tin cans, xbow for enemy ranged, axe for shielders, etc.). The only class I feel ill-equipped to handle is agility polearmers, which unfortunately are everywhere now. I suppose I'd need a longer 1h sword as my primary weapon to have a prayer against them.

[Jarlek]

Low damage ? 25p 30c is low ? What the fuck are you using Jarlek one handed flamberge ?

LAS=        25p 30c speed = 98 7k
KAS=        24p 31c speed = 97 97
Spathion=26p 31c speed = 96 10k

All 3 has same lenght.

If you ask me LAS is superior to those 3 .

+1 cut +1 pierce damage aren't enough to compansate 2 speed difference and nearly double upkeep.

My LAS is 33c speed (+3), my military hammer is 31b (+3).

That's a pretty big damage difference on anyone not naked.

1h swords in general have pretty low damage. 33c (even at +0) on anything but a 1h is just considered ridiculously low, and I always used to take a look at my longsword and my long arming sword and just be baffled at the difference (especially since longsword used to be CHEAPER than LAS).

[Nightmare798]

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[NJ_Legion_Icedtea]

Decision was Spathion in the end.
Thoughts so far are I like it, its pretty nice, especially when I got a bit more accustomed to the length of it