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Re: Attention Grey Order !!!
« Reply #30 on: March 03, 2014, 10:22:21 pm »
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It doesn't matter if he repaid for his crimes or not (ofc he didn't). If polish state sentenced him to 25 years in prison there's no possibility to hold him in jail for another 25 years for the crimes he was convicted already. And state of law can not make exceptions, just because its politcians fucked up things in the past. We shall be in bondage to the law so that we might be free, as Cicero said. POlish parlament has passed act which allows to keep Trynkiewicz and other criminals like him in jail in extraordinary circumstances, but almost all legal authorities agree that this act is incompatibile with polish constitution and international law. After year or two it will end up that Trynkiewicz will go free and POland will have to pay him compensation   :P
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Re: Attention Grey Order !!!
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2014, 11:56:21 pm »
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If we weight lives against lives, how many of them has been lost by soft judgement? If there was 10 times more people dead by the hands of a former inmate, than innocent people executed, would that be enough of an argument?

Satius enim esse impunitum relinqui facinus nicentis quam innocentem damnari.

No. The general idea on which the modern criminal law is construed is to make punishment rather swift and unavoidable than harsh. Also, it is not universal truth that all former inmates return to crime. 

Death penalty or any permanent body injury is irreversible. That is why it should not be allowed. Also, (there many researches on that topic) - the death penalty does not prevent crimes, however the swiftness of the punishment does. I believe the societies should strive - permanently -  to perfect the system, to cast the punishment fast, to avoid long criminal procedures, and to show that if someone commits the crime, the punishment is unavoidable. We do not need the death penalty to keep the dangerous people away from society.   
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Re: Attention Grey Order !!!
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2014, 08:35:27 pm »
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If we weight lives against lives, how many of them has been lost by soft judgement? If there was 10 times more people dead by the hands of a former inmate, than innocent people executed, would that be enough of an argument?

Butan, if you imply that punishing innocent man can be justified in any way, especially as a collateral damage in an attempt to punish those who commited a crime, then you're terribly wrong. Wasn't it said, better to let go free 99 gulity men than convict 1 innocent man? Nobody can be punished for no reason.
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