Ban on Elfa and Kisco

[frandhul]

This message is for Rlmuri I tried to send you a private message but it is giving me error I put the letters in the image.
Sorry to bother you this message for the post mainly vat in which exposed us to the ban and sorry for my English because I am neither and never learned English in my life , I'm using google translator, I state the message that was gonna put in the post of ban :

Sorry ? It was you who broke into the server When He and I were just people construllendo several things. you came I destrullendo breaking it all our stuff things beginning with the catapult or is it not true That we did not break any of Bustros objects ? Accounts que no not do not, you just spelling on the chat , but ye Were the first to assemble que no things and hide them , I see an unfair ban, with people building Were our stuff and vienieron two Individuals to break everything When we will Have Done nothing to them , Began to break our things , que is why to proposed ban was made ​​and I had more people on the server if not why the proposal favorably position came to your expulsion from the server? I tell you That your fuistes Which started to break everything. Those things you guards . I repeat see an unfair ban. and please ask the unban or ask the server Strategus EU3 A several People that if we did something wrong we had several people do not know Their name so I say That I did nothing wrong ask for That nonsense ban.

Sorry to bother you and others, but I see esque exaggerated and unfair ban because we decided not to bother people since our last ban on January 6, 2014 , we were so quiet on the server with more people till they vienieron them bother turning up two of them her friend and did nothing on we started to bother even we told allos I think were they like building things we did not do any harm to anyone if my friend did the proposal to ban them was to let us break things us they will not broke anything. Please ask the unban or at least a less severe sanction are forming a clan with W4sd and are trying to do things right , we know English we have not studied , so we do not know to defend well against people like so in the images of the chat that I show you, I miss not found written because I do not understand nor speak it well . Please ask for mercy and I note that we please remove the ban. Thanks for your time Sincerely Kisco and hope I have not bothered with this message

[Elmuri]

The translator isn't working very well here , so I can't understand much of your text. Maybe you want to post the original version since we have a spanish admin (Patoson) who could read it?

Meanwhile I have sent a message to Fallen_Knife, who was clearly a witness in the case, if he has something to say about the incident.

About Elfa, you have to remember that he was also involved in this:
http://forum.melee.org/eu-(official)/vi/msg965275/#msg965275
and also banned by Fips for leeching nearly at the same time.

[frandhul]

I got an error when trying to talk me by private message not accept the letter of the picture. part could know how long and been banned?

apart just because we tried to have fun with the people who were with us in the server then they came I have no blame for anything not even broke anything to them

And again I repeat sorry for the inconvenience

[Patoson]

Escríbelo aquí en español y yo se lo traduzco.

Elfa y Kisco han sido baneados por esto (supuestamente por destrozar material de asedio de otros jugadores en EU_3 y abuso de "poll"). Elfa tiene ya un historial de bans largo y le han puesto 3 semanas. Kisco 3 días.

[frandhul]

Vale siento que tengas que estar de traductor Patoson que no me funcionan los mensajes privados con la cosa de tener que verificar el código de la imagen siempre me lo da como error.

Te explico estábamos en el server del strategus después de que habían terminado todas las batallas y no había mas batallas asta dentro de un rato, bueno pues eso que estábamos con varias personas construyendo catapultas torres de asedio y demás pasando el rato divirtiéndonos, pues a eso que llegan 2 individuos y primero empiezan a pegarle a la catapulta nosotros pasamos del tema, diciéndonos por ts que ya se cansarían, pues bueno se cansan y nos preguntan que como la pueden construir y se lo explicamos, bueno a eso que ellos se van a la otra punta del mapa a construir lo suyo, pues cuando tienen ya una torre de asedio construida sin animo de mal ajeno solo para ver si querían hacer una pequeña lucha de catapultas les lanzamos dos piedras a su torre de asedio con la catapulta sin apenas dañarla, y pues eso que dice el tio que nos reporto que parasemos y paramos, y en ese mismo instante se pone la armadura y el hacha con lo del baúl ese y se pone a destruir la catapulta y lo rompe todo, pues a eso que Elfa/ Isildur hace la propuesta de baneo, y la gente al ver lo que estaba haciendo este individuo acepta na propuesta, nosotros no conocíamos a nadie del servidor solo estábamos allí construyendo cosas y ellos se divertían lanzado piedras y demás al ver lo que hizo el demandante del baneo lo votaron para expulsar del servidor y fue expulsado, con esto te digo si nosotros hubiéramos hecho algo mal tu crees que la gente hubiese expulsado al demandante del baneo? pregunto yo creo que un ban por esto es excesivo ya que no hicimos ningún mal a nadie ni rompimos nada en teoria fueron ellos los que rompieron nuestras cosas y no por eso hicimos un post para banearlos digo yo que no es para banearnos que desde el ultimo baneo intentamos no ser de nuevo baneados. Un saludo Frandhul


Y por favor estamos empezando un clan con W4sd y tenemos batalla hoy lo pediria por favor no hemos hecho nada malo intentamos corregir nuestras acciones del pasado y no ser baneados por favor lo pido.

[Patoson]

Translation:

"We were in EU_3 after all battles had ended, and there was still time until the next one, and we were building catapults and siege towers with other people to pass time, until two folks come and start hitting the catapult. We decide to ignore that and they cease to hit the catapult.

Then they ask us how to build one, we explain it to them, and they go to the other side of the map to build their own. When they have built a siege tower, we throw two rocks at it with our catapult, barely damaging it, to see if they want a fight between catapults. They tell us to stop and we do, but suddenly one of them grabs his armour and axe from a weapon rack and starts hitting our catapult, and he ends up breaking everything, so Elfa starts a ban-poll against him and, since everyone else saw what happened, the poll succeeds.

We didn't know anyone in the server. We were just building our stuff and those two were having fun throwing rocks and all, but when people saw what one of them did, he was banned by the poll. My point is, if we had done anything wrong, do you think that person would have been banned (by the poll)? Just saying.

I think that our being banned is excessive since we didn't hurt anyone or break anything. It was them who broke our stuff and we didn't go writing a ban request. I think it's not worthy of a ban for us, because, ever since our last ban, we work hard on behaving and avoiding another.

Best regards,
Frandhul".

[frandhul]

Gracias por traducirlo Patoson

[Elmuri]

Well Immortality said that you continued shooting after the first shot, and you deny it. The log doesn't show it, but what is said in chat would support the first option. I'd say we will wait if the witness shows up and has something to say.

[frandhul]

three days to do this seems excessive considering that I did not destroy anything

[Knife]

Is this related to the catapult drama? If so, don't judge for me only reading the first line as It's rather irritating to get all this because of joining a server in sunday's morning and then find a couple of people messin' around with siege equipment and then think about joining them assuming nothing bad can come out of people pretending siege equipment's their toys. Besides, thought it's good to see weather the catapult bug's still in there, never did find it out...oh well 

Though I'll say this, if this ''Kisco'' wasn't in the server none of this wouldn't of had happened, he was the one leading the catapult against the siege tower and shooting it.

[frandhul]

Quiero preguntarte una cosa ¿es verdad que nosotros rompimos algo vuestro? ¿o vosotros fuisteis los que rompieron algo nuestro? Por esta misma razon fue la propuesta de baneo, nosotros no podemos defendernos por el uso del idioma del ingles, yo por mi parte tengo que decir que no rompi nada ni hice ninguna propuesta, solo acepte una propuesta esa propuesta fue aceptada por la destruccion de nuestras construcciones. y si quereis dejarme el ban de 3 dias lo tomare a mal porque gente como esta personas que ha hecho un reporte en el foro por una tonteria, hacen que un mod bueno se convierta en una pesadilla y no den ganas de jugarlo.

yo no hice nada para merecer un baneo de 3 días pido la retirada del baneo inmediatamente por favor.

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I want to ask you something, is it true that we broke something of yours? O Are ye were those who broke our something? For the same reason was the proposed ban, we can not defend ourselves by using the language of English, I for one have to say that not broke anything or made ​​any proposal, only accept a proposal that proposal was accepted by the destruction of our constructions. and if you want me the ban of 3 days I'll take this the wrong people because how are you one people who have made a report to the forum for silly, make a good mod becomes a nightmare and not make me want to play it.


I did nothing to deserve banishment ask 3 days withdrawal of the ban immediately please.

[Trikipum]

Just sneaking in coz patoson told me he had to translate some of this shit, so im leaving my point of view:

What i know is  that you cant really tell what happened there. Ive seen that happening before and admins wouldnt rule a ban like that. Yet this time the word of the other guy is taken as "god's word". I think you guys should be impartial no matter what. Im not seeing it here and it makes my horse feel sad. Think about it. They were 5 persons in the server 2 each side and then a "single" guy. This one is the one who actually decided the poll's result. If you take the word of one side instead the only witness...that is bad. the witness actually acepted a poll. I would try to find that person and clear things out before banning either of each side. These 2 guys got their ban just coz they got a "story". On the other hand maybe the other guy has "better friends" in crpg. Wouldnt be surprised.  I say, they might deserve it or not, but the point here is that you dont really know, so what is up banning one of the sides?, just coz the other side posted faster in teh forums?. That is pretty lame and you guys know it.

[Elmuri]

Thanks Knife.

Solution: don't shoot/damage other peoples equipment, and there will be no need to defend yourself in English. I'll unban you this evening, make sure you know the rules http://forum.melee.org/announcements/official-server-rules/ and behave after that. I've had enough of this case, if you still want to continue with new arguments or feel badly mistreated, do it in my admin feedback thread.

Your friends ban will stay, since it was not only for this case.