Your Opinion on Throwing Lances?

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

What build, and what range?

The best you can do is 21/18 with lances and 6 riding 6wm 7 pt and 1 extra stat.  What is this mystical build?

All the builds I've seen still have a target area that's almost impossible unless you're within long spear range.  And again, at that point, why not just use a lance or a 2hander and be a far more effective build?

Like I said, it can kill shit, but it's a troll.  It can only effectively kill 4 targets a round without having to scavenge.  That being said, the build does decimate for dehorsing.

7ps, 6 riding, 6wm, 1ha/4wm 3ha, that's really all you need, and scavenging IS a key part of being a horsethrower, and it is easy enough to aim with those stats.

[DumpsterNerd]

7ps, 6 riding, 6wm, 1ha/4wm 3ha, that's really all you need, and scavenging IS a key part of being a horsethrower, and it is easy enough to aim with those stats.

I've tried 7PT 6 riding 6WM 1 HA, and wasn't a fan of the accuracy.  I've yet to try 3ha/4WM, so maybe I'll give that a shot on my next STF iteration.

I've also tried 15/24 for jarid trolling (4 HA) with from a horse, and maybe it was the jarids accuracy vs lances, but I found the accuracy was really lackluster, and I was only able to reliably hit enemy cav players and close range (inside long spear range) reliably.  This doesn't mean everyone uses a long spear and is going to kill you, so I guess I understand the fun of it.

I'm not saying the build can't kill people, it's just never going to be as reliable at longer ranges as regular thrower.  The tradeoff is high mobility and potential for speed bonuses, so it's a good trade.

I just have trouble arguing for a build that becomes useless after it kills a maximum of 4 targets.  This doesn't even account for if you miss and hit a teammate/kill a horse/ someone else scavenges throwing weapons.  In addition I see this build having very limited viability in strat.  That starts pushing things closer to troll and farther away from 'GG'

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

In strat one good horsethrower with jarids or spears or lances can keep an entire spawn secure of cav. The accuracy also really is underrated, I've never had trouble doing longdistance shooting, maybe you should've taken some time to get used to the arch of flight, while horseranged have less damage as long as they are standing still their accuracy is exactly the same as that of someone on the ground, and the HA skill both reduces the movement and damage penalty, I can kill enemy ground throwers all the time even with these minor penalties.

When I play as a horsethrower, unless I'm about to die/get dehorsed and it is my last desperate move I'll never take a shot were I have serious negative speed bonus intending to hit the target and not just scare him off, I'll also never take a shot that has any real chance of hitting a horse unless I'm tired of chasing the guy. If your throwing weapons get scavenged by your teammates you're in bad luck, if they get scavenged by an enemy thrower all you need is to kill him and it means you got usually 2 new stacks of throwing weaponry, so you're ready to kill far more than 4 targets.

[Huscarlton_Banks]

A +3 throwing lance in melee mode is superior to a +3 shortened spear, but the cost difference makes up for it.

It seems hard to get a good balance on throwing lances without ripping on low-mid armor/health builds and squishy horses since jarids already wreck them.

Weapon	+3 TL	+3 SP
Length	120	120
Weight	1.5	1.2
Speed	103	103
Thrust	30p	29p
Swing	20b	20b
Upkeep	567	110

[oreshy]

this would be an epic counter against all cav, and especially against ranged ones.

imagine the fking over HA and HX and the endless rivers of their QQ.

oops, i am dreaming again.

It already is...