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Re: New Patch Cavalry Changes
« Reply #45 on: May 31, 2014, 08:39:19 pm »
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Can we buff my rouncey more please?

I've had that thing for almost 2 years at +3 status. If only I used it EVERY round, I'd probably be 10X better.

Change doesn't hurt High levels. Still 18/21 Hybrid w/pole, 1h and can ride almost every horse(used to ride ALL horses but heh)

Also, Tydeus. I told you so. Eastern Horse @ 8 riding was stupid. Now it's 7 and actually WORTH it. Shoulda listened to me oh...8(?)months ago when you made it 8 riding.
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Re: New Patch Cavalry Changes
« Reply #46 on: May 31, 2014, 08:40:48 pm »
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lol hanging on to an 8 month old "i told you so", holy shit your life must be a mess
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Re: New Patch Cavalry Changes
« Reply #47 on: May 31, 2014, 08:50:07 pm »
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lol hanging on to an 8 month old "i told you so", holy shit your life must be a mess

http://forum.melee.org/announcements/0-2-9-3-2/msg745621/#msg745621
http://forum.melee.org/announcements/0-2-9-3-2/msg745640/#msg745640

1.2 years ago actually.

I almost got the balancing right. Eastern is exactly what I said: a Middle Ground between Courser and Arabian though lacking in health.
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Re: New Patch Cavalry Changes
« Reply #48 on: May 31, 2014, 08:52:17 pm »
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i'm sorry for your pain
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Re: New Patch Cavalry Changes
« Reply #49 on: May 31, 2014, 08:59:06 pm »
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Can we buff my rouncey more please?

I've had that thing for almost 2 years at +3 status. If only I used it EVERY round, I'd probably be 10X better.

Change doesn't hurt High levels. Still 18/21 Hybrid w/pole, 1h and can ride almost every horse(used to ride ALL horses but heh)

Also, Tydeus. I told you so. Eastern Horse @ 8 riding was stupid. Now it's 7 and actually WORTH it. Shoulda listened to me oh...8(?)months ago when you made it 8 riding.
http://forum.melee.org/announcements/0-2-9-3-2/msg745621/#msg745621
http://forum.melee.org/announcements/0-2-9-3-2/msg745640/#msg745640

1.2 years ago actually.

I almost got the balancing right. Eastern is exactly what I said: a Middle Ground between Courser and Arabian though lacking in health.
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Re: New Patch Cavalry Changes
« Reply #50 on: May 31, 2014, 09:30:42 pm »
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  Current Mamluk Horse
    hit points: 149
    body armor: 54
    difficulty: 8
    speed: 38
    maneuver: 38
    charge: 36
    50,033

Old Charger
    hit points: 130
    body armor: 60
    difficulty: 5
    speed: 38
    maneuver: 38
    charge: 38
    52,512

+19 hp, -2 charge, -6 armor, -2.5k gold cost. Not something I would call too much of a nerf.

Chargers saw more reduced armor because their role at charging groups of enemies were buffed since the max speed increased. A 13 armor and ~20+hp jump from the eastern warhorse/cataphract was a bit silly imo. Many other horses received larger changes than others since they were worse (barded warhorse) or better (war horse/eastern warhorse) compared to nearby horses, and overall have a more steady progression for charge, armor, speed, and maneuver instead of the large jumps seen before like 24->34 charge from the padded warhorse to the war horse.

It's unknown how the eastern horse will turn out since not many people even have one loomed yet. Courser turned out as expected. Against aware infantry, speed isn't a large influence, but it's great when dealing with/against other horses. Maneuver is good against both, and high maneuver+charge are pretty broken attributes to have together.

The partial respec not being enough is a very valid complaint, though. At the time, I thought that 9str + riding refund would've been too similar to a free respec. If one can make a good argument for why they feel certain stats are too low/high, I'm all ears.