watch out for Tazman_HRE

[Nightmare798]

Instead of creating this useless topic you just could have made an unban request, saying that you feel sorry and that you only hit him with fists. I am sure Fips would have unbanned you/reduced the ban.

I PMed right after that, and he practically said this: oh but he went all this way just to ban you so i think you deserve it kthxbai.

this is the message i received

Well, if he goes through the effort of reporting you and making a screen of it and post a ban-thread i think 1 day off is okay, because he obviously didn't like what you were doing.
Pro-tip: Only troll with people you know won't do anything, Tazman is definitely not one of them.

[Zlisch_The_Butcher]

Admins shouldn't be allowed to make decisions in ban reqs against or by their clanmates.
Even worse, the banthread doesn't even follow the banthread rules, as can be seen here: http://forum.melee.org/eu-(official)/ban-request-requirements-read-this-first!/

BAN REQUEST FORM:

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1. Name of your character involved
2. Name of offending character(s)
3. Time and server, as accurately as possible
4. Written description of what happened, the whole story. Also what happened before and after.
5. Why you think the offender did what he did.*

6. Multiple Screenshots

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7. Names of players who witnessed what happened.**

Also you can't possibly be banned for calling someone a bundle of sticks once... 
In a case like this with only one screenshot it is clear that nothing should've been done unless several witnesses who weren't HRE stepped forward, and heck, even No_Rules, who was on that server at the time, confirmed it was punches and therefore not really real team attacks, the screen also shows that nightmare stopped punching him after being m'd.

[Prpavi]

"Well, if he goes through the effort of reporting you and making a screen of it and post a ban-thread i think 1 day off is okay"

What? Like Zlisch said no way you should deal with your own clan members ban requests, this is not a massive deal but you should really watch it doesn't happen again beacuse it will look fishy, be smart enough and ask a fellow admin to look into the matter.

[Nightmare798]

"Well, if he goes through the effort of reporting you and making a screen of it and post a ban-thread i think 1 day off is okay"

What? Like Zlisch said no way you should deal with your own clan members ban requests, this is not a massive deal but you should really watch it doesn't happen again beacuse it will look fishy, be smart enough and ask a fellow admin to look into the matter.

very well, i think i should be more careful in future. its just that it doesnt really seem fair, especially when i meant no harm. if i drew my weapon and started to hack on him, then fine ban my ass as much as you want, i am griefing and deserve that, but it was only prancing. heck some people attacked me in battle after round was nearly over, and i took the joke and dueled.

[zagibu]

Everyone who was on the server at the time of these happenings should be permabanned, just to make sure no criminal gets away.

[Varadin]

TAZMAN THE BADMINEST

[Torben]

fisting each other is a common crpg courtesy and an act of friendly communication.  a banthread initiated because of that should get the banthread creator banned,  as he needs time to think about proper crpg etiquette  and his place in the community. 

[Molly]

well, if he wants you to stop punching him, i guess he has the fullest right to report it. It's just a warning from his side, saying: 'man stop this shit, I'm not in the mood'.
If you are punching someone, I guess you are in a quite happy state of mind, so you shouldn't bother if some people don't want to 'play with you'.

A guy was hitting me earlier and doing very little damage, but I got annoyed from the stuns and the sound so I reported him too. He stopped, that's it. no drama.

You can clearly see that he stopped hitting after the reports reach 4/5.

Us oldmy old friends already know to stay away from Tazman cuz he's raging like a 6yrs old but that doesn't make the ban any better.
Especially Fips' argument "It's Tazman, you better not fool with him!" should have given him enough insight to not ban and just warn instead.

Anyway, annoying that things like this happen once in a while and yes, handling ban requests from clanmates is unlucky and best be avoided... but in the end no real harm done. Maybe it can be a lesson for the future: Don't handle clannies ban requests and don't trust HRE-Chief of Police Tazman with anything really

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As former Bandit I/we had a special relationship with some of the HRE members in the past. Tazman was standing out

fisting each other is a common crpg courtesy and an act of friendly communication.  a banthread initiated because of that should get the banthread creator banned,  as he needs time to think about proper crpg etiquette  and his place in the community. 

This.
Punching serves an actual purpose. Either it's just friendly "Hello! I am bored and what about you?" to fool around a little or to make someone realize that he just did something stupid, e.g. after a teamhit you go the archer responsible and punch him once.
In all my time, I've never been punched with really bad intent.
One thing tho: Keep in mind who you are punching. Archer and Ninja for example use mainly squishy builds with low armor and low health. Punching as strength whore with plated gloves does quite a lot of damage! Doesn't work for Tazman tho since he is HRE siege player = high armor and high strength

[Nightmare798]

You can clearly see that he stopped hitting after the reports reach 4/5.

Us oldmy old friends already know to stay away from Tazman cuz he's raging like a 6yrs old but that doesn't make the ban any better.
Especially Fips' argument "It's Tazman, you better not fool with him!" should have given him enough insight to not ban and just warn instead.

Anyway, annoying that things like this happen once in a while and yes, handling ban requests from clanmates is unlucky and best be avoided... but in the end no real harm done. Maybe it can be a lesson for the future: Don't handle clannies ban requests and don't trust HRE-Chief of Police Tazman with anything really

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As former Bandit I/we had a special relationship with some of the HRE members in the past. Tazman was standing out

This.
Punching serves an actual purpose. Either it's just friendly "Hello! I am bored and what about you?" to fool around a little or to make someone realize that he just did something stupid, e.g. after a teamhit you go the archer responsible and punch him once.
In all my time, I've never been punched with really bad intent.
One thing tho: Keep in mind who you are punching. Archer and Ninja for example use mainly squishy builds with low armor and low health. Punching as strength whore with plated gloves does quite a lot of damage! Doesn't work for Tazman tho since he is HRE siege player = high armor and high strength

i dont punch peasants for this reason, as i know i can actually do some damage, which is not good. unless they are on other team

EDIT: thread was moved to spam?

HAHAHA OH WOW!

[no_rules_just_play]

You can clearly see that he stopped hitting after the reports reach 4/5.

ok, I actually finally understood what this is all about, i never saw the ban request untill just now.
I know understand that this all happened in front of my nose, i even nudged taz after the reports.

Let's say it like this: taz had the fullest right to report you if he was annoyed or if he was getting some damage, but making a ban request for it is indeed quite stupid.

That's all I have to say, I hope your ban is over soon!

[Nightmare798]

ok, I actually finally understood what this is all about, i never saw the ban request untill just now.
I know understand that this all happened in front of my nose, i even nudged taz after the reports.

Let's say it like this: taz had the fullest right to report you if he was annoyed or if he was getting some damage, but making a ban request for it is indeed quite stupid.

That's all I have to say, I hope your ban is over soon!

it already is, it was one day, but still pretty annoying.