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Re: Crosshair nerf for HA
« Reply #15 on: April 23, 2011, 10:08:26 am »
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yea imo horse archers are nerfed too much, they need to spend skill points on power draw, horse archery, riding, and still need to have some room for power strike and weapon master if they dont want to be completly helpless on ground
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Re: Crosshair nerf for HA
« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2011, 10:12:55 am »
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Pure HA build:
Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 15
Agility: 24
Hit points: 50
Converted: 8
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 0
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 6
Horse Archery: 4
Power Draw: 5
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 8
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 173
Crossbow: 1
Throwing: 1

Uses bow - that makes him shoot fast and far. On the other hand, has only 4ha and can't be really accurate at full speed - unlike HC. Deals cut dmg, that might be bad, but since he has 5PD and 170 wpf, he doesn't bounce off too often, because both wpf and pd increases dmg and basic accuracy (basic accuracy here means: accuracy when standing still) ;)
Can wear heavier armors. Has more hp.
He can't ride too fast and is less manouverable than HC.

Pure HC build (and everything else is NOT pure HC build, because there is NO point in going for "pure" HC if you are not planning to get 5ha - because without 5ha you can't beat HA in anything. Without 5ha you are just a hybrid HC/lancer or whatever ;) ):

Level 30 (4 420 577 xp)

Strength: 7
Agility: 30
Hit points: 42
Converted: 4
Ironflesh: 0
Power Strike: 2
Shield: 0
Athletics: 0
Riding: 10
Horse Archery: 5
Power Draw: 0
Power Throw: 0
Weapon Master: 10
One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Archery: 1
Crossbow: 190
Throwing: 1

Uses crossbow - that makes him shoot slow (but 190 wpf makes it a bit faster  :twisted:) and on short distances. On the other hand, has 5HA and his accuracy is same, either he is riding courser at full speed or stands still. Deals pierce dmg - but from what I heard WPF has no influence on crossbows dmg (I don't really believe it...) so, unlike archer, he won't be able to deal higher dmg than his weapon deals.
Can wear only REALLY light armors. Has less hp.
He can ride really fast and is more manouverable than HA.


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Re: Crosshair nerf for HA
« Reply #17 on: April 23, 2011, 05:59:11 pm »
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Cris... it's called teamplay, not "stealing kills".

It's team game. If you cry, because your teammate helped you in killing someone, go away.

Both HA and HC are perfectly balanced. If you let HA with 5 Power Draw (bleh, even with 4 Power Draw) to have 5HA, you can actually forget about HC - they will be useless.

not crying about it, i never cry - neither should I  cos I take other's people kills.

What I meant (and its not hard to figure out) is that besides from headshots (which are  very  hard for the average player - never mind at speed), killing a target can easily take 5 arrows as HA. No other prof takes so long.
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Re: Crosshair nerf for HA
« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2011, 05:11:00 am »
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So basically, we have a nerf thread from someone who has never used the thing they want a nerf from.

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Re: Crosshair nerf for HA
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2011, 05:38:34 am »
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Hum...
I think that's a pathetic HX build. I Use a 15/21 HX build and can be quite deadly when enemy has 25%<= of their team with a ranged weapon. The thing is though, the HA v HX thing relies on several other factors: Armor, Skill, and( most importantly) Horse choice. A good HA or HX would use a Sarranid, but it's expensive.(I use sarranid)

Still, you got a HA, i'd love to do some tests with ya versus my HX.
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