Noob needing help with Horse Archer character build?

[MrDemonic]

Hey all,

I'm fairly new to cRPG, I was just wondering if there was a good character build for a Horse Archer, with a bit of foot melee incase the horse gets killed.

I know there are the "Solid Builds" in the sticky thread, but I just wanted to ask everyones opinion on this. I still am trying to learn all the abbreviations for all the skills and so on.

Here's what I have so far;

Strength:7
Agility:12


One Handed: 1
Two Handed: 1
Polearm: 1
Throwing: 1
Crossbow: 1
Archery: 84


Weapon Master: 1
Athletics: 0
Riding: 3
Iron Flesh: 0
Shield: 0
Horse Archery: 2
Power Strike: 1
Power Draw: 2
Power Throw: 0


PS. How do I find out what Armour and weapons can I use? I mean I buy new weapons and armour and then I can't use them, but it doesn't tell me what requirement I need to fill out.

Thanks in advance

[dodnet]

I can't say much to HA's except that its a hard class for your first gen. It also might cost you a lot of repairs for horse and arrows, so you might better go for another class.

PS. How do I find out what Armour and weapons can I use? I mean I buy new weapons and armour and then I can't use them, but it doesn't tell me what requirement I need to fill out.

Armor, helmet, shoes, gauntlets req. = strength
Infantry weapons + crossbow req. = strength
bows req = power draw
throwing req = power throw
horse req = riding
shield req = shield

[Arrowblood]

U rage quit horsearchery anyway if u dont have any looms.

[callahan9119]

Don't do it. Like the other guy said, you will just be wasting time because you WILL respec. I wouldn't use cav at all until you have a good chunk of cash saved...

[MrDemonic]

So what would you suggest for a new cRPG player? I've played a fair bit of Warband. I had another character that was going into Crossbows, but I thought it would be a good idea to start over with this one :/

I'd want something that was enjoyable to play with and that doesn't make rage swell up inside me from annoyingly cheap kills haha.

[callahan9119]

If you are good at manual blocking, polearms or 2 handed; this is probably the best way to go if you are good at manual blocking.. You can check out the solid builds thread stickied here. Personally I like 1 handed/shield with throwing. Keeps me safe, and I can destroy cavalry charging me with 1 throwing axe.

I would wear light/medium armor and buy a good weapon whatever you choose and save money.

Solid builds
http://forum.c-rpg.net/index.php/topic,9160.0.html

Good 1 handed/hybrid builds and other cool builds

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BUILDS
We strongly urge fighters to create versatile hybrid builds so they can fulfill many or any role needed on the battlefield.  Also consider working 4 POWER THROW w/90~ WPF into your builds as this fits a Viking theme.  Typically only Jarls or leader positions will be riding horses. 

Here are a few example builds

THANE:  Heavy Infantry Vanguard that wades into hordes of enemies

(click to show/hide) Strength: 24 Agility: 12 Hit points: 73 Skills to attributes: 2 Ironflesh: 7 Power Strike: 8 Shield: 4 Athletics: 4 Power Throw: 4 Weapon Master: 2 One Handed: 100 Throwing: 88

(click to show/hide) Huscarl Helmet Light Kuyak Mail Gauntlets Leather Boots

HUSKARL:  A well rounded foot soldier utilizing his namesake shield

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Strength: 21
Agility: 15
Hit points: 62

Skills to attributes: 2

Ironflesh: 3
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Power Throw: 4
Weapon Master: 5

One Handed: 124
Throwing: 100

MARAUDER:  Rare but menacing cavalry designed to harass enemies and provide close infantry support

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Strength: 18
Agility: 15
Hit points: 63

Attributes to skills: 2

Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 5
Athletics: 5
Riding: 5
Power Throw: 4
Weapon Master: 5

One Handed: 124
Throwing: 100

GUGNIR SPEARMAN:  like a wall of icicle daggers, keeping the enemy at bay until the time to strike is right

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Strength: 15
Agility: 21
Hit points: 60
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 5
Shield: 5
Athletics: 7
Weapon Master: 7
Polearm: 164

VALKYRIE SHIELD MAIDEN:  A Maiden sent from Valhalla to protect her kin with shield and sword

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Strength: 21
Agility: 18
Hit points: 58

Skills to attributes: 8

Ironflesh: 1
Power Strike: 7
Shield: 5
Athletics: 6
Weapon Master: 4

One Handed: 140

HAMMERSMITH OF THOR:  wielding the Mighty Morningstar to shatter enemies

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High athletics allow the Hammersmith to move to the spot on the battlefield he can create the most destruction.  Cutting wide swaths and destroying anyone that enters the path of his speeding Morningstar.  Medium throwing talents allow the Hammersmith to finish off victims should they attempt to flee or limp away to safety.

Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 65
Skills to attributes: 2
Ironflesh: 6
Power Strike: 6
Shield: 1
Athletics: 6
Power Throw: 4
Weapon Master: 6
Two Handed: 125
Throwing: 115

MJOLNIR THE UNSTOPPABLE:  Obliterating enemies with the greatest of all hammers, the Great Maul

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Using 2h either Great Maul or saving money with Mallet or Morningstar.  1 Shield to use old round shield to absorb arrows while you get to the target.  Also some light throwing to counter back peddlers & fleeing victims.

Strength: 24
Agility: 12
Hit points: 75

Skills to attributes: 2

Ironflesh: 8
Power Strike: 8
Shield: 1
Athletics: 4
Power Throw: 4
Weapon Master: 4

Two Handed: 113
Throwing: 100

LOKI'S MINION:  An agile Battle Support Archer aimed to create mischief and mayhem for enemies.  They stay close enough to friendly infantry to provide cover fire.  Fast enough to outrun most foot soldiers and act as bait and distraction while allies chop up the opposition.  Can hold their own in melee.

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Strength: 18
Agility: 18
Hit points: 63

Skills to attributes: 2

Ironflesh: 5
Power Strike: 6
Athletics: 6
Power Draw: 6
Weapon Master: 6

Two Handed: 75
Archery: 146

CURRENT CLASSES NEEDED MOST
These are what we are most need of, but that doesnt you cant join if you arent one of these classes.  We like versatile players that can adapt to those around them, so as long as you are a team player and like what you've read so far, apply!
 

Spearman Spearman Spearman:  Spears are really the life blood of teamwork.  We train our shielders & mauls to work hand in hand with longspears & pikes to methodically disassemble enemy opponents.

2h'ers - Using Axe/Morningstar when on your own and MAULS when with clanmates in squad  play.  Mauls are priceless for killing shielders & tincans.  You will get countless easy kills bashing the brains out of ppl as they crash into our wall.  You will have shielders covering your flanks and spearman stunning enemies, allowing you to waltz around smashing heads!

[MrDemonic]

Cheers for that, I doubt i'm good at manual blocking, always have it set to auto in Warband, think i'll go with the 1 handed/shield with throwing. That sounds good, maybe later after a bit of experience I'll expand out to something more unique.

Also, why light or medium? Wouldn't it be better to wear the most protective armour there is? I know you'd be slow but you'll be able to take a lot of hits.

[callahan9119]

No, it's expensive to purchase, costs a ton in upkeep, slows you down and lowers your WPF. If you do decide to use one of those hybrid throwing builds, get your throwing skill up to where you can use heavy throwing axes (around 87-88 I think) early, otherwise when leveling slows down you will have to wait to utilize them. I'm wearing Huscarl Helmet, Light Kuyak, Mail Gauntlets, Leather Boots and using that Thane build, if I got much heavier my throwing is hurt.

You won't be taking a lot of hits in heavy armor, if someone like Serge or Miley etc hits you, you're dead, even in heavy armor. The goal is to use that shield/footwork and pray to God you don't get hit and someone comes to save you.

Your weapons are the most important thing and what you should invest the most in.

[Ronin]

Even with no manual blocking at all, you would do much much better in heavy armor swinging a greatsword randomly, than you do in horse archery with no looms. Watch for your teammates of course

[Knute]

You could always make a skip the fun horse archer alt.  They start out at level 30 with 10k gold, so you'd just have to use cheap stuff for a little while and then you're all set.  You can also respec their stats now and keep the gold, so it's just a good way of trying out any build you're thinking of making before spending lots of time creating it with your main character.

I tried a skip the fun 15/24 horse archer, it's accurate but not much hitting power so I'm making a 18/21 horse archer with a regular alt.  Horse archers used to be really popular so they made them a lot weaker than they are in native.

[Adamar]

you're in for a world of pain