Point system for arranging matches ala Warhammer...

[Tristan]

Not really sure if this is the appropriate forum. It's not an event yet, nor is a suggestion as I do not want to tweak anything in cRPG. It's more like an idea that needs some input.

Basic idea is to create matches through a point system. Each clan signs up a unit of 5 persons. This unit is assigned a point value.
An aspiring commander feels like showing off his tactical skills and challenges an opponent saying he assembled 1000 points for friday evening... "can you assemble one so we can fight?"

The rigid way to do this is to say that each soldier in unit must be equipped exactly alike.

An example:

Antarian Panzerforce 500 points, 5 troopers
PLate, flamberge blah blah +1 extra trooper 100 points.

Druzhina snipersquad 450 points, 5 troops
Rus bow, bla bla bla

Modifications or variations
a) Each unit is allowed a hero who can equip differently
b) Each unit is allowed to use different equipment, but must always use the same 5 types with which it was first registered
c) Each unit gets more expensive as it has participated in more victories
d) The points value of each unit is done by peer review and calculating costs
e) A ladder for commanders

Does the idea have merit? Or just a waste of time?

[Tomas]

The idea has merit but the points value system could be simplified.

1) The 2 commanders agree on a points limit between 100 and 1000
2) Everybodies char level is converted into points - each level = 2 points.  So 5 level 30 chars = 150 levels = 300 points
3) Everybodies gear value then gets converted into points - 1000 gold = 1 point.  So 5 people in typical gear with a value of 30,000 = 150000 gold total value = 150 points

So my 5 level 30 chars in typical gear uses up 450 points.  If 450 points was the limit agreed and I wanted to get my level 34 ace player into the game then I would have to sacrifice 8k worth of gear value.

EDIT: Also this way the game can limit equipment on your team according to the chars spawned already.  If the limit is 500 points and the first 4 people spawned have used up 430 of those points then the last person will only be able to use up 70 points.  If they are level 30 then this means they only get 10k worth of gear and can't spawn if they equip more than that.  A points ticker can be added to show people how much they have used up.

[Tristan]

That would just make the idea another battle. Basicacly what you are suggesting is just what the autobalance is doing on EU1...

The idea was to hire groups of players with a story...

[Tomas]

That would just make the idea another battle.

The idea was to hire groups of players with a story...

Ok - think i got the wrong end of the stick then.  Not really sure what you are trying to do

[Joker86]

Ok - think i got the wrong end of the stick then.  Not really sure what you are trying to do

For everyone who feels the same like Tomas, which is perfectly okay as not everyone know the Warhammer Tabletop game:

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It's a kind of board game without board (= tabletop game), where two players bring their own, personally optimized armies to fight a battle. The armies consist of small miniatures, which are either made of plastic or of tin (depends on the miniature, it's a technical question, I don't see any pattern when tin and when plastic is used). You buy them for a shitload of money, and you colour them yourself as good as you can, and then you create an army following certain rules of the corresponding "Armybook", that tells you everything you need to know about collecting and playing one of the over a dozen armies. Then you fight, following some clearly defined rules, turn-wise, and using dices (d6) to fight and decide anything which can have different outcomes.

Armies look like this:
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(Those are the Tomb Kings of Khemri, oviously an undead army with Egyptian theme, fighting against the Skavens, the rat-humans. The first, rather "brown" line of miniatures of this picture are the Skavens)

And this is how one of the troop types is listed in the armybook:
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As you can see, the unit size is between 10-40, so you have to at least buy 10 skeletons for your army, which means you are buying unit-wise. This is standard, unless you buy some special things like Necromancers, Bone Giants or chariots, they usually come as single modles for obvious reasons.

(In this game you simply assume every model owns a one handed melee weapon, be it a dagger, sword, axe or mace. That's why the first option says you can switch the bow for a shield, which sounds awkward if you don't know the game

Edit: oh, I just see it's shown in the "Weapons & Armour"-line that they have a hand weapon)

[B3RS3RK]

I´d rather modify the system.

So for example you "buy" a Soldier for a special amount of points(let´s say 100), and then you can buy equipment for more points.Obviously the Soldier for 100 points should have really basic equipment already, would need to figure that out.

Buying in Units is crap.The Warhammer system is made for much bigger battles with partly far over 100 miniatures.That won´t fit well for Clan battles with maybe 30 persons per side maximum.

One would need to sort out all the costs for all the equipment first, ofc...Hard piece of work, but maybe someone would dedicate him to it


Imo, such a System wouldnt be really beneficial for now, because there aren´t THAT many clan tournaments and stuff, and it would require a lot of work.

There are simpler systems by far, which equal nice balance aswell.