Spear Thrust - Too easily blocked

[AvengerC47]

Is this even possible in the engine?  I'd LOVE to see spears able to strike in the same four directions as other weapons but as a thrust instead of a slash/swing.  This change alone would be perfect without changes to the stats.

its just a change of animation of the upward hit by a high thrust, nothing more

[Spawny]

Find a buddy, stick with him. Preferably someone with a barmace or the like.

He overhead attacks and you stab at the guy at the same time. Good luck blocking those.

It's not a 1v1 setup, it's a support role. Eventhough some people are very good with just a warspear or an awlpike, their main use is poking people who are fighting someone else.

[Joker86]

Right. And this works perfectly. You can amass a lot of kills this way, although it is a bit of kill stealing 

[Vygar]

Find a buddy, stick with him. Preferably someone with a barmace or the like.

He overhead attacks and you stab at the guy at the same time. Good luck blocking those.

It's not a 1v1 setup, it's a support role. Eventhough some people are very good with just a warspear or an awlpike, their main use is poking people who are fighting someone else.

While this is viable (and I find myself trying to work with the other players; it is a team oriented mod after all).  My complaint about spear thrust attacks is that they don't lend well to the weapon functioning on par with the other selections.  I find it a bit absurd that a pike attack can be instantly deflected simply by holding your lower block with 100% success. 

[bredeus]

Right. And this works perfectly. You can amass a lot of kills this way, although it is a bit of kill stealing 

It's a supporter role to support attack, if a hit will kill the enemy, it's a bonus but all the fun is to help teammates imho. Nobody called me a kill stealler so far

[EponiCo]

Rofl, Joker, _TPs don't talk of killstealing.
Sometimes you poke one, and he's dead, sometimes you poke and he's interrupted and the ally kills him.

[Vygar]

I think my favorite solution you guys had mentioned so far would be to change the animation and give the spear 2 or more thrusting attack directions at least when used in one hand. 

[Joker86]

Rofl, Joker, _TPs don't talk of killstealing.
Sometimes you poke one, and he's dead, sometimes you poke and he's interrupted and the ally kills him.

That's the way it is, you are right.

I feel it's a bit... well... unfair. The guys in front of you risk their skin fighting the enemy, while I stay back in safety, but however have the same chance of killing him.

On the other hand I am pretty screwed in 1 on 1 against any  more or less capable fighter if only using a spear/pike. But as I can always switch to another weapon, and I do so, this is no excuse for me.

So please forgive me if I have a bad feeling when killing people from the second row. On the other hand I would also have a bad feeling if I decided to not participate, because if my teammate gets killed then I would have a bad conscience, too. Difficult. 

[DrKronic]

Spear. And shield gives the ranged defence of a shield plus a good ranged thrust with good pierce

In a 2 on 2 sit u will see the advantages

It should be weak in 1 v 1

U realize u should drop the blockcrutch err I mean shield and fight without it in a 1v1

Good thing as a polearm u have that versatile option, two hand doesn't

Unless I split wpf and end up sucking at both

Learn to do more than thrust this isn't ancient greece

[RandomDude]

id take an awlpike over a 2h wep for spammable thrust anyday

im still 1-2 hit in gothic plate by those things

obv it lacks in side swings