Ban R_Kelly_On_You

[KC_ascanet]

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This was in regards to KC_Thorin getting banned. He purposefully TKed Thorin and now he purposefully TKed me. The admins online aren't doing anything about this so I'm taking it here. Now you see Thorin wasn't the problem.

[R_Kelly_On_You]

Dont start a ban poll for me then screeny me shit talking you because your just mad your boyfriend got banned.   This idiots just trying to get me "revenge banned" or something im assuming.

TK was an accident, i appologised, get over it and stop trolling.

[BcBKC]

This was 30 minutes before. He's intentionally attacking us. Seriously can we get a non dumb admin in here?

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[Mechanix]

lol, pretty sure he's banned on community, which is why his troll ass is in official.
It's becoming quite common now. 

[R_Kelly_On_You]

Mech trolling.  Unbanned off community smd

[Panoply]

This isn't his first offense, and he's a known troll.

Therefore, I'm dishing out a week long ban.

[thorin987]

Justice... thank you.

[R_Kelly_On_You]

Abuse    Better admin please

[SeQuel]

I have seen R_Kelly troll a few times but nothing major though I wouldn't be surprised if he did do this.

Maybe you'll learn from this Kelly *Shrugs* who knows.

[R_Kelly_On_You]

tks in pics are accidents and i appologised, cant you see all the enemies in the dang pics????

[Lt_Anders]

This isn't his first offense, and he's a known troll.

Therefore, I'm dishing out a week long ban.

Wow, that's well pretty harsh considering no definitive proof of tks. One of them is just a log and that could be ANY kind of accidental or intentional tk.  And If you look at the First SS very easily that tk could be  accidental, considering there's still two enemies there fighting.

Also, I'm pretty sure if you look at the log posted, voteable bans was changed and r_kelly was laughing that someone who attempted to ban him got banned for it.(You clearly see someone state WHY? just before the vote bans get changed with no answer) Someone Obviously was in the wrong before hand and is now trying to make sure that the OTHER person gets it.

Stupid Justice.

[H4rdn3ssKill3r]

Wow, that's well pretty harsh considering no definitive proof of tks. One of them is just a log and that could be ANY kind of accidental or intentional tk.  And If you look at the First SS very easily that tk could be  accidental, considering there's still two enemies there fighting.

Also, I'm pretty sure if you look at the log posted, voteable bans was changed and r_kelly was laughing that someone who attempted to ban him got banned for it.(You clearly see someone state WHY? just before the vote bans get changed with no answer) Someone Obviously was in the wrong before hand and is now trying to make sure that the OTHER person gets it.

Stupid Justice.

Hmmm really, he insults her, then tk's her, I'm sorry but this shit isn't stupid justice it's needed justice, and it dosen't help that he's a know troll.

What goes around comes around.

[Lt_Anders]

Hmmm really, he insults her, then tk's her, I'm sorry but this shit isn't stupid justice it's needed justice, and it dosen't help that he's a know troll.

What goes around comes around.

Eh, perhaps. I just see it as not definitive enough.  I also stated you can see why he's trolling in the removal of vote bans up above the beginning of R_kellys tirade.
(though I will NOT deny he's a troll, I've just had far more reports on community of him doing shit and it being false, just because people know they can get away with it due to his name. Much like how Allers and Miley back in the day were kicked/banned just for being on the server cause they were known, even if they didn't do it.)

[Panoply]

I can understand the concerns, considering the evidence posted in the thread is not philosophically waterproof. That said, it is my understanding that at least two other admins were online at the time of the incident, and they both expressed their opinions, which were in line with my own.

A judgement call was made. In any such call, you have to weigh the chance of letting a guilty party off without punishment versus the chance that you're punishing an innocent person. In this specific case, I feel that a ban was warranted.

That said, I will give R_Kelly the opportunity to appeal for a shorter sentence via PM, again subject to judgement. For now, I am locking this thread.

Feedback is always appreciated, and can be directed through PMs. I believe I have been reasonable.

Cheers,
Panoply