The best unrealized solution to the Pike and "long spear"

[Siiem]

weapon weight SHOULD lower wpf..

Another tool to balance those big ass weapons. Pay for weapon length and dmg in wpf reduction.

yes... make lightweight probable high wpf users outspam them even more. Brilliant suggestion.

[Thucydides]

I support this proposal, i love blockstun

[Xant]

yes... make lightweight probable high wpf users outspam them even more. Brilliant suggestion.

It's almost as if Thomek's every suggestion aims to buff katana users. But naaaahhhh, it's just my imagination.

[Thomek]

Trololol..

Yes because big ass swords or poles are not only the best dueling weapons, they are ALSO the best battle weapons out there.

It is true that I want katana buffed.. But generally I'm so sick of the Danish I want to puke.

IMO.

There should be battle swords, great for dishing out damage in battle, but they should not ALSO be the best in 1vs1 duel situations.

Let's forget the Katana for a second. (I consider that horse a dead one..)

Wouldn't you like it if the Longsword was clearly best in duels, and the Greatswords better in Battle?

That way, when you went to battle, you could own the same way you do now in masses, but you could ALSO choose the longsword if you tried to create 1vs1 situations on the battlefield, i.ex by flanking?

See where I'm going?

[Tungsten]

You want to be a pikeman? 3 Slots, be a pikeman.

Want to carry a bec with the pike? Too bad, you're not a pikeman.

[Xant]

Wouldn't you like it if the Longsword was clearly best in duels, and the Greatswords better in Battle?

Not possible. If you make Longsword "clearly best" in duels then Greatswords won't be better in battle, either, as you'd need to buff the longsword a lot or nerf the Greatswords a lot. As it is, the only reason longsword isn't used more is because of its shitty thrust damage.

[Tomas]

Here's some maths.

Density of European Ash = 710Kg/m³ 
Length of Pike = 3m
Radius of Pike = 0.03m (an estimate)
Calculation:  Mass = Density*Length*pi*Radius²
Mass of Pike = 6.02Kg = 13.25lbs

For the record, my estimates would bring the Ashwood Pike out at 3.33Kg so they seem pretty good to me.

In order to weigh in at just 3Kg, the cRPG pike would have a density of just 353.7Kg/m³, which would put it down as being made of Bamboo (300-400Kg/m³).

Conclusions: 
10Kg seems a bit high for any Pike to me. It would need to be nearly 8cm in diameter.
However, looking at the model, the cRPG Pike should be Ash and not Bamboo and should therefore weigh around 6Kg rather than 3. 

[Deathwhisper]

Trololol..

Yes because big ass swords or poles are not only the best dueling weapons, they are ALSO the best battle weapons out there.

It is true that I want katana buffed.. But generally I'm so sick of the Danish I want to puke.

IMO.

There should be battle swords, great for dishing out damage in battle, but they should not ALSO be the best in 1vs1 duel situations.

Let's forget the Katana for a second. (I consider that horse a dead one..)

Wouldn't you like it if the Longsword was clearly best in duels, and the Greatswords better in Battle?

That way, when you went to battle, you could own the same way you do now in masses, but you could ALSO choose the longsword if you tried to create 1vs1 situations on the battlefield, i.ex by flanking?

See where I'm going?

Depends on the weapon. English bill is a great battle weapon but it's shit in 1v1 against someone who knows how to block thrusts. Quarter staff is a good dueling weapon (and it's 1 slot) but it's bad in battles.

Not all dueling weapons are good in battle, and in fact I think long polearms (halberd, bill, long spears...) are much better than swords poleaxes in battles, as long as you've got a good team of course.

A lot of short weapons are good in duel but much weaker in battle, unless you're playing a shielder of course.