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Offline Hotpokka

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Buff the Grosse Messer
« on: September 04, 2011, 03:42:41 am »
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The Grosse Messer as it stands is a decent weapon. However when you compare it to other 1h weapons it just doesn't compare.

Grosse Messer
weapon length: 85
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 11
speed rating: 99
weapon length: 85
thrust damage: 19 pierce
swing damage: 34 cut
slots: 1
7,410

Langes Messer
weapon length: 92
weight: 1.8
difficulty: 12
speed rating: 98
weapon length: 92
thrust damage: 23 pierce
swing damage: 33 cut
slots: 1
Secondary Mode
7,517

So you're sacrificing 1c and 1 speed for 7 range 4p and a secondary mode?

Arabian Cavalry Sword
weapon length: 105
weight: 1.3
difficulty: 13
speed rating: 95
weapon length: 105
thrust damage: 19 pierce
swing damage: 33 cut
slots: 1
6,900


Again sacrificing 1c and 4 speed for a huge increase of 20 range.

Niuweidao
weapon length: 88
weight: 1.5
difficulty: 10
speed rating: 101
weapon length: 88
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 32 cut
slots: 1
6,058

Sacrificing 2c and a thrust for 3 more range, 2 more speed and $1400 less.


Military Cleaver
weapon length: 92
weight: 2.5
difficulty: 14
speed rating: 96
weapon length: 92
thrust damage: 0 pierce
swing damage: 35 cut
slots: 1
5,655

You get 1c and 7 more range in exchange for 3 less speed.
I think it should be buffed up to 21p and given a secondary mode, speeding it up would render the Italian Falchion useless. There are other weapons that need to be buffed but this is one that has stood out.

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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2011, 03:45:00 am »
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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2011, 03:45:08 am »
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Grosse Messer is really good. It doesn't need a buff.
On a similar note, it is imperative to carry smoke bombs. Archers get confused because they're so ineffective that they pause to wonder why, so they end up being as effective as intended.

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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2011, 03:46:34 am »
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Lol buff the grosse messer :lol:

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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2011, 04:50:28 am »
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Looks to me like grosse messer has the perks of speed and swing damage, but if you want more range or thrust damage you need to look elsewhere.

Hmm... I see no need to buff this weapon.  It's all about what matters to you/your build.
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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2011, 06:47:31 am »
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Looks fine tbh.
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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2011, 10:36:45 am »
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A buff on thrust damage would be nice. Something like 22p on stab. 19p is ridiculous.

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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2011, 12:48:01 pm »
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buff to 102 speed cus its short

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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2011, 02:53:00 pm »
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A buff on thrust damage would be nice. Something like 22p on stab. 19p is ridiculous.
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But to the topic. They seem quite balanced. There are some unbalances between top tier onehanders like Knightly Arming Sword and Nordic Champion's Sword, but I think the Messers seem relatively fine. Maybe decrease the price of the Grosses Messer a bit and/or a point more in damage somewhere.
« Last Edit: September 04, 2011, 03:06:40 pm by Ninja_Khorin »

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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2011, 03:56:27 pm »
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i think its not under powered
but an little pirce buff would be nice or less rep costs

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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2011, 05:01:53 pm »
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Masterwork'd it hits like a charging moose and swings as fast as a mauling bear.  If it were buffed very much the masterwork'd form would be overpowered.

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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2011, 06:14:44 pm »
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Totally UP, buff the grosse messer!
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Re: Buff the Grosse Messer
« Reply #12 on: September 04, 2011, 06:22:23 pm »
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lets make all weapons to have same stats, then complaintment would stop..