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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2011, 02:33:52 pm »
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Unsheat has been made not for realism but for balance matter.
Otherwise there is otherweapon that should be unsheated

Oh, I thought it's for realism elements, but thanks for correcting me, I didn't know that. I never saw any unbalance with pikes (I was fine with the fact that everyone can have them in their pocket), cav had totally the same kills  when everyone ran with a pike.
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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2011, 10:21:26 pm »
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Making plated peeps unable to jump would be a bad idea, as they might get stuck somewhere and cant get out of that mess - or we need a new climbing feature ;)
The logic of war seems to be that if a belligerent can fight he will fight.

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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2011, 11:16:32 pm »
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Making plated peeps unable to jump would be a bad idea, as they might get stuck somewhere and cant get out of that mess - or we need a new climbing feature ;)

I think, when you get stuck even jumping can't help you out in most cases.
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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2011, 11:53:14 pm »
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wow warband is so immersive that people forget it's a game.

also:

- polearms should get cut in half when blocking a 2handed sword hit
- if a bardiche meets your head, your head should fall.
- a plated charger + plated knight should not jump at all but should kill you on trample.
- if you get hit in a leg, you should run slower.
- if your arm get slashed by an axe/greatsword/poleaxe you should lose your arm and possibly your weapon.
- shielders should have the option to do shield bash.
- etc...
if you call realism, you should call it entirely. not only the "real things" you like.

They nerfed archery according to realistic values... 60m/s when the longbow's arrow leaves the bow as opposed to the original 80m/s as I was told on IRC pre-patch.
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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #19 on: July 23, 2011, 12:51:15 am »
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I think, when you get stuck even jumping can't help you out in most cases.

What I meant if you drop off a roof (got there by a ladder) and end in a field with a fence around - trapped in there forever like in a cage?  :|
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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2011, 05:07:57 pm »
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What I meant if you drop off a roof (got there by a ladder) and end in a field with a fence around - trapped in there forever like in a cage?  :|

Well, a horse should not be on the roof XD. A horse is not going to jump down from a roof IRL too. So there is a solution. Get down from the horse and go down :D.
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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2011, 06:52:28 pm »
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Ah... I wasnt talking about horses, but about plated soldiers  :oops:
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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #22 on: July 23, 2011, 06:58:03 pm »
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Ofc they can jump, we all know elephants can jump!

(For balance it's best to let them keep jump.)
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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #23 on: July 23, 2011, 07:51:13 pm »
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Ah... I wasnt talking about horses, but about plated soldiers  :oops:

I think plated soldiers can jump IRL just not that high.
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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #24 on: July 23, 2011, 09:48:56 pm »
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Ofc they can jump, we all know elephants can jump!

(For balance it's best to let them keep jump.)
Elephants are more muscled than horses due to their weight and elephants you mentioned do not wear armor I guess.
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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #25 on: July 24, 2011, 03:27:31 am »
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guys guys guys...
its a realism argument. If you wanna argue that a horse in armor can't jump that high, remember that if you are trampled by that horse you are no longer fit to fight due to bunch of broken bones etc. Yet miraculously, i trample people, and they get back up.

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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #26 on: July 24, 2011, 04:01:22 am »
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Yeah it would be pretty bad for cav. One little slice and a dead horsie... It works both ways :D
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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #27 on: July 24, 2011, 04:41:00 am »
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Yeah it would be pretty bad for cav. One little slice and a dead horsie... It works both ways :D

Lets just say that a trained massive warhorse (armored or not) would take more that a "little slice" to die considering its big, powerful and running/living on adrenaline. Some 'regular' (not for war) horses in the wild are near impossible to catch nor stop cuz as soon as they start running they start pumping a lot of adrenalin in their blood making them run super fast and for a freakin long distance!

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Re: Can heavy armored/plated horses jump IRL so high like ingame?
« Reply #28 on: July 24, 2011, 05:55:00 am »
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Want realism? Suuuuuuuure, nothing can hurt platers but half sword stab, most polearm stabs and the 2 hander pierces and blunt weapon, even the fucking long espada wouldnt do shit on plate armor. The pierce and blunt 1 handers might hurt the guy inside the armor, bow would be uselss, and only the arbalest and maybe the heavy crossbow if its branch are made out metal.

A metal shield wouldnt be breakable, but on the other hand something like a steel shield or a plated one would too heavy to use.

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