Bows should be varied instead of a short bow shoot speed=longbow-3

[Keshian]

At the very least the shoot speed should be varied as in real life (Paul's argument) these bows were wildly different in strength.   As a practical matter it doesn't allow a balance between draw speed and and shoot speed.  Longbow should gain +3 speed, short bow -3 shoot speed and the upper middle bows +1 to +2 speed and lower middle bows -1 to -2 shoot speed to balance and have diversity.  otherwise theya re just different graphics for the same thing.

[Patricia]

Hey, let's make the slow as fuck arrows even slower.

Genius, Kesh.

[Keshian]

Hey, let's make the slow as fuck arrows even slower.

Genius, Kesh.

Wow, subtlety flies by head.  Zipppppp.  I am suggesting the mid-tier and higher end bows get +1 to +3 shoot speed and the lower end less.  My guess is if you are an archer you use one of the bows that I am suggesting get a shoot speed boost.  Learn to read between the lines.  This would benefit 95% of the archers out there and bring shoot speed a little bit higher considering they dropped it 20 points, when they didnt even consider dropping 10 or 12.  Game balancers have no real concept of balance through making small changes and trweaking especially with a class that was already balanced.

[Tennenoth]

Any step towards rehitting my flair to actually play the game is a good step. I would agree with the subtle increase because I have given up on the fact that it'll be put back to normal.

Still find it quite rediculous that we're told not use realism to justify a change and instead use balance while the -12 seemingly was slapped in the face of archers through realism. "60m/s as opposed to the current 80m/s so that it is closer to real life." for as much of that quote as I can remember.

I'm for this to be honest, but maybe 5 or 6 since the decrease has been... very detrimental to my want to play the game and I haven't touched it since the day the patch was released but i'm holding hope for my class yet.

[Mannhammer]

Nice idea Kesh but I'm still holding out for a return to prepatch archery standards.
We need to stop caving-in every time chadz and the Dev team make a crap patch that ruins game play for an entire class for the sake of 2H/polearmers.

No more Nerfs!! No half measures!!

Archers were anything but OP in the last version of cRPG. All the stats backed this up.
chadz and the Dev team have only given this reason for the archery nerf:
-Archers will be OP on Strat.
But chadz you said this version of Strat is to beta test the battles to see if any one build (IE archers) dominates. So why did archers get nerfed if they haven't even been proven to dominate in this version of Stat?

Until a better reason is given, I can only see Malice as the real reason for the nerf. 
Honestly the only reason I'm playing cRPG right now is to grind gold for my clan.

Playing an archer is simply no longer any fun, but I guess that was the point....

[Farrok]

Playing an archer is simply no longer any fun, but I guess that was the point....

exactly that...but think about the poor 2hspammers...it sonly fun for them when all other classes are nerfed to uselessness so they can easily top the scoreboards...


by any means missile speed is soo slow but the best of the bows is the yumi...31 missile speed? really? a courser is faster than a arrow -.-


though the damage is a joke too...someone survived 8+ arrows from pd5 horn bow in midtier armor -.- the same person was twohit from a arming sword

[Patricia]

Wow, subtlety flies by head.  Zipppppp.  I am suggesting the mid-tier and higher end bows get +1 to +3 shoot speed and the lower end less.  My guess is if you are an archer you use one of the bows that I am suggesting get a shoot speed boost.  Learn to read between the lines.  This would benefit 95% of the archers out there and bring shoot speed a little bit higher considering they dropped it 20 points, when they didnt even consider dropping 10 or 12.  Game balancers have no real concept of balance through making small changes and trweaking especially with a class that was already balanced.

I shouldn't have to read between the lines when it's a fucking suggestion thread, next you'll start doing cryptic puzzles to buff 2 handed weapons?

Also, woopdie-fucking-do let's make the gap between low end bows and high end bows even bigger, fuck diversity, everyone should use the same high end bow, EVERYONE.

[Loki]

they always over react. archers have been nerfed into the ground since strategus, give them a chance.

[Keshian]

All the cut bows seem to be exactly the same since the patch with no real noticeable difference when you play (except that the Yumi bow is dogshit).