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Suggestions Corner / Banner Balance Vs Clan Tag Balance

« on: January 27, 2011, 03:19:28 am »

How Clan Tag Balance works:

1. Performs a compare function on all player names and strictly sorts players based on Clan tags(No more being separated from your Clan mates for more then one round).
2. Clans are put on opposing teams based on total number of Clan members present.
3. Kills and Wins from both Teams are compared and more balance is applied to the rest of the server population.
4. Makes it nearly impossible to leach with the dominant Clan because using people abusing clan tags would not be tolerated as a Banner currently is.

This is all theory at this point. If the poll shows that people are interested, I'll  shoot a message about it to chadz and cmpxchg8b(dev of WSE) to see about getting it implemented in game.

Edit: I apologize for the bias remarks in the poll and I've reset the voting, so we can start with a clean slate!

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General Discussion / Re: What do you think about autobalance by banner?

« on: January 26, 2011, 07:19:31 am »

I propose that "Banner Balance" be changed to "Clan_Tag Balance". This would eliminate non clan players from using a clan banner to leach with 5x multiplier. Another implementation would be to have the balance script separate clan's based on number of current players with tag's as well placing clans on opposing teams. I believe that these implementations would solve the issue of stacked teams and balance out game play quite a bit.

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General Discussion / Re: Time for a NA West Coast Server?

« on: January 25, 2011, 04:10:31 am »

I'd rather have 2 servers with 50 people than one big one where half the people get owned cause the other half has way better ping.

As would I, but I don't see that happening. During peak hours I often see both Battle servers nearly full, sometimes the siege server has a decent amount of players on as well.

Everyone should understand that a lot of people first trying out the mod from the south west are going to see only a couple of servers with moderate ping levels, then when they play during peak might experience similar lag spikes that I've been experiencing; not to mention the high amount grind, upkeep, constant balance issues (aka nerfs), and the quick realization that you will never catch up to players(like GoreTooth) who have heir loomed 20x and are literally gods on the battlefield.

All of this is driving away a player base and potential funds for more servers. This server has a chance to at least eliminate the bad ping issues for the West and the other issues can be focused on in time.

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General Discussion / Re: What city should the NA/US West Server be hosted in?

« on: January 25, 2011, 03:49:16 am »

Well, since I live in Canada B.C I would prefer Seattle. It would benefit all the Canadian players rather then Texas for example.

No it would only benefit Western Canadians. Eastern Canadians are covered by the Chicago servers.

Western Canada has a population of like maybe 10milion people? Whereas Texas has 24milion people living there, not mention many more millions in the surrounding States.

A minority area should not be a consideration in respects to server placement. But it's not our decision and it seems they are having trouble raising funds to keep the current servers a float, the out look is grim at this point.

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General Discussion / Re: The NA servers require your help!

« on: January 25, 2011, 03:28:28 am »

I would much rather see a service like chipin.com being used so the community can monitor the funds and see where they are going. It's easy to set up, check em out.

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General Discussion / Re: Time for a NA West Coast Server?

« on: January 23, 2011, 06:51:50 pm »

I think people are over-valuing a server closer to the west coast. If you're west coast and you're getting pings of 120+ to the chicago server, with spikes of 300+, it's likely your ISP and not the server. I'm east coast, and I get the same ping to the chicago servers as I do to the native dallas servers.

I don't think you'd see a notable improvement in gameplay unless you got a server in your neighborhood somewhere.

For reference, the "same" ping I get on both dallas and chicago servers is between 30 and 50. I know, I'm blessed with a good provider, apparently.

No one is over valuating anything! You are living on east coast and being served decent ping times. Stating that it's an issue with someone's provider, when it's a well known fact that distance causes latency, is a bullshit argument.

What State on the East Coast are you located in? Looking at a map there are plenty of states that are about equal distance from Chicago and Dallas, no doubt you are living in such an area.

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General Discussion / Re: Time for a NA West Coast Server?

« on: January 23, 2011, 11:57:53 am »

You guys really think NA has the population to support another NA server? We already have 4 of them, and they are rarely full, except for 1.

Yes I do.

I believe that a lot more people would play this mod if they had servers that suited their needs. Who knows how many have players have quit over bad latency?

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General Discussion / Re: What city should the NA/US West Server be hosted in?

« on: January 23, 2011, 11:39:17 am »

Infrastructure wise and player base wise, I'd suggest LA/Sanjose or Dallas.
Would benefit the most people and wow some bias in this thread.

Yea it's generally the minority with the loudest voice who gets his way in the US... 

I'm actually impressed with the results of the Poll. It's showing exactly what I wanted. More player base in the South West and Central US, giving a more Central location for a server the maximum coverage for all areas. Most polls on forums don't represent any true measure as people can manipulate them, in this case, unless you own multiple copies of M&B I don't see that happening.

I'll be very interested to see where Gorath decides to host his server; if it is indeed Seattle I won't be disappointed, although I believe those in Dallas area might.

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General Discussion / Re: What city should the NA/US West Server be hosted in?

« on: January 23, 2011, 10:05:21 am »

I'd be willing to bet that a lot of what drives people away from CRPG is the lack of Western servers. I know for me that during peak hours I consistently see spikes of up to 300 ping on the Chicago servers. It's just about unplayable. How can anyone expect a community to grow around a niche mod if you are only providing decent gaming experience for a fraction of the country? It just won't happen.

Now if a mistake happens, and a server goes up that isn't geared toward the majority of this mod's western community, it's going to slow it's growth, or downright drive away people whom might have otherwise provided needed servers/resources for the communities growth.

Again I can't stress enough that North/West Canada(and the only person playing M&B in Alaska) represents a very small portion of the Western population. I understand wanting to have lowest possible ping, but if you think of it in terms of community growth, ask yourself if you would you be willing to sacrifice a 30 ping for a 60 ping so that the majority could have a 60 ping as well? This is all I'm proposing and it's really not unreasonable. A Seattle server should be heavily considered later when more of Native players are drawn in to play!

But for the time being you have to realize there are just more people living in the South/West then up the North and meeting the needs of majority should be goal with this server. It can only strengthen the community.

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General Discussion / Re: Time for a NA West Coast Server?

« on: January 23, 2011, 09:27:27 am »

Nothing is free.  We pay huge taxes.  Hst, income tax, hidden taxes, carbon taxes, hidden taxes.  We also have to pay for medical, but ya the burden is on the tax payer - aka - the citizen.

Meh, it's an ok place to live.  Too cold, too wet.  Sometimes I think of moving south.

No truer statement can be made...

But at least it frees your mind of worry if you catch an illness or get injured. Most people drown in debt while fighting cancer or other illnesses and this is even if you have insurance!!! Quite sad really. And I can't quite rap my head around the idea floating around the States that Socialized medicine would bring about  the downfall of society, but somehow our Socialized mail system, schools, etc (I could list shit all day) isn't bad. Go figure.

I live among the pines and snow; and I love cold weather. To bad we don't have Moose this far south!

I heard lots of Seattle votes, and then bleyz and his negativities. Screw him!

Seattle FTW! I'd donate. I live 15 minutes outside Seattle.

From the looks of the Poll Seattle isn't losing out. But the results show what I intended them to. A middle ground should be met!!!

If perhaps you think of others and not just yourself you might come to terms with the idea of a more Centralized Server location. On that note, I'm not fully against a Seattle server location, it's Gorath's deal and if that's where he wants it that's where it will be. I just believe there is a better option for everyone.

Living in Jersey, I usually get 60+ ping on the current NA servers. I hate to think what my ping would be on a server in Seattle. If there's to be a West Coast server, we should also get an East Coast server. That way we can properly split our already small community.

Why not somewhere in South Dakota or Nebraska? Somewhere right in the middle that would make players on both coasts even.

I'd love to get 60 ping!!!! I'm stuck with 100-170ping with spikes into the 300's on those Chicago servers.

Technically Lebanon, Kansas is smack dab in the middle of the US.

I'm all for coastal servers but we're talking one server right now for the West.  And as I've pointed out a more mid-west server would better suit the community right now. Somewhere around oh you know Boise or SLC...

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General Discussion / Re: Time for a NA West Coast Server?

« on: January 23, 2011, 07:58:48 am »

Hate having to do this - but I gotta pull out a map.  Wow you guys have alot of states.

Ok, considering the position of the current map unless every NA server would actually move to a central position as suggested I don't see the point in placing more servers merely 2 states over.  If that were the case then I would suggest keep the current east coast hubs, with more based out of say Utah.  That would make more sense to me if we were trying to make two centralization points.  But ya, if it were moving everything to one hub, then right in the middle seems the obvious best spot.

Nice to see I brought someone around 

I take it you are somewhere in British Columbia? How's the free health care working out for ya?

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General Discussion / Re: Time for a NA West Coast Server?

« on: January 23, 2011, 07:17:15 am »

This has all been hashed over alot quite a few times - the whole WC server thing.  I myself have only been playing about 7 weeks maybe, tops?  I am with you on all you say Beyz.  I still find the community odd at times, but it took awhile to adjust and now it just sort of makes sense.  There are some really miserable people who play this mod, and they are so noisy at times they make new players feel like it's a whole bunch of people, but naw.  It's really just a few bad apples.  All in all I've found the community to be decent enough. 

But ya, starting up servers having just started playing.  I'd wait for sure.

What's a DFW?

Dallas Forth Worth

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General Discussion / Re: What city should the NA/US West Server be hosted in?

« on: January 23, 2011, 06:58:53 am »

If Bush got in twice I think Seattle can get in once.

When did this turn political?

In any case Seattle isn't the worst option on that poll. If Gorath decides to host in Seattle, hell I'll benefit from it.

But I still can't help trying to get him to think of the majority of players he'll be leaving out. People from the Seattle/BC as well as East, West , and South would all benefit from a server in the SLC/Boise area. That's all I'm trying to point out.

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General Discussion / Re: Time for a NA West Coast Server?

« on: January 23, 2011, 06:39:29 am »

IMO a growing population means overpopulated servers.  I already have to wait to get on during peak times with that crazy cool down pw timer.  The servers can only handle what the donators are already donating for slot space.  Maybe this is a dilluted point since perhaps more players means more donators, but I would imagine the % of players who actually donate is very small anyways vs the actual player base.  I would imagine the real donators are the ones providing the servers, and what is provided is probably all they are comfortable providing.  I'd donate monthly to a real low ping server for me.  But I'm just one guy.  But ya, not arguing a point, because it could really be looked at either way right?  No definitive right answer imo.  But if Gorath is ready to roll, a Seattle server is awesome!

I just started playing not to long ago...  Right now I have the cash flow to rent multiple servers and keep them hosted for years with out any support from donations or wherever. Am I willing to so? Not yet, I'm not sure this mod is going in a positive growth direction. Right now I seeing a struggling community, bickering, accusations of admin abuse, accusations of favoritism in form of nerfs from the dev no less(not that this is true)etc etc.. We'll see if this continues on a new server.

The issue of more players is no brainier. More players will no doubt bring in more money for servers. With that you'll want to make as many people satisfied, and I'm sorry but Seattle Wa, even with the weight of Canada behind it, is a minority area. It's tiny compared to the Southern/Western States. Just look at the population charts.

In any case since I'm not willing shell out the cash for a server myself ultimately it's up Gorath and if indeed a he chooses Seatle that's fine, I'll get lower pings and I'm sure that some others will as well.

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General Discussion / Re: What city should the NA/US West Server be hosted in?

« on: January 23, 2011, 06:20:03 am »

Just from looking at the poll it's getting more and more obvious that Seattle is a minority choice. No surprise really.