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General Discussion / Re: Why doesent anybody open an Elite clan??

« on: April 15, 2012, 08:25:18 am »

ff is the cool guy clan for sikk crossbow noscopes.

edit: come summer we may have up to 5 (!!) active members when benjamin franklin and alexander hamilton come back from college, although idk if alex ever bought the game after warbands beta.

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Unban Essays / Re: [Unban Essay] How a non-racist remark can be marked racist

« on: April 08, 2012, 04:54:21 am »

yeah, the mods decided a while ago that he shouldn't have been banned for it in the first place, let alone essay banned. like i said, he put exactly as much thought into the essay as was put into the ban in the first place, although I'm fairly sure most of the people still complaining about this like 10 days later aren't actually aware of why he was banned in the first place and just want something to bitch about

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Spam / Re: As the first President of the USA, I am now running for office of adminship

« on: April 05, 2012, 06:14:12 am »

Just a joke thread anyways, was expecting a longer intro that sounded properly 18th century.

True men don't need to bandy about fancy words and posture over vocabulary to voice their intentions. George Washington is a simple meat and potatoes man, and he understands the plight of the common folk. That is why I want to elect him as admin.

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Spam / Re: As the first President of the USA, I am now running for office of adminship

« on: April 05, 2012, 04:41:32 am »

At this rate we might as well make Badplayer an admin.

Badplayer is an upstanding citizen and a patriot, despite his handicap of being a foreigner, and you can be assured that the Washington administration will not sit idly by and watch slander such as this thrown about regarding patriots.

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Spam / Re: As the first President of the USA, I am now running for office of adminship

« on: April 05, 2012, 04:29:56 am »

Learn2history.

Georg Washington (office: 1789-1797) was NOT the first president of the United States of America. He was the first president elected under the Constitution. John Hanson was the first President of the United States to serve the full one-year term (1781–82), under the ratified Articles of Confederation, but Samuel Huntington(1781–82), the President when the ratification happened, might also be considered the first. Regardless, Washington was not the first one.

Actually, both of those people had the title President of the Continental Congress (less formally just President of Congress) not President of the United States, and it was a much more ceremonial office, having little of the powers that we would associate with the presidency today, so I guess you're technically right but also totally wrong in any real sense, FUCK HEAD!!!

edit: I'm sorry for calling you a fuck head

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Unban Essays / Re: [Unban Essay] How a non-racist remark can be marked racist

« on: March 31, 2012, 05:20:55 pm »

So your just going to gloss over the fact he just C/Ped a google search?

he put exactly as much thought into his unban essay as kalam put into banning him for what would have been, at most, muteworthy if anyone else had said it. like i said, if y'all wanna ban him for past history just do that instead of making excuses. so far past ban history is literally the only reason anyone in here has come up with for keeping this ban in the first place

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Unban Essays / Re: [Unban Essay] How a non-racist remark can be marked racist

« on: March 31, 2012, 09:35:42 am »

Yes darling, I'll ignore all of the insults/ignorant statements I have seen you fling in the past, forgive me oh mighty one for making a mistake unlike you oh-perfect ATS masters and your personal gleaming reputation. I am so well and truly sorry for daring step out of line, will you ever forgive me kind sir? I beg of you to forgive my ignorance, and will clean your boots with my tongue and kiss your ring a thousand times if that is what it takes. I'll start reading more books sir, become more educated until I'm on the same level of the average Americ-oh wait...

lmao, what does any of this have to do with what he said? you were talking about something you obviously don't know shit about and got called on it, and he was right to call you on it

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Unban Essays / Re: [Unban Essay] How a non-racist remark can be marked racist

« on: March 25, 2012, 10:46:25 pm »

Unbanned. I don't really care about quality so much as you taking the time to think about it for a second.

im glad that you gave him, and all of us, the opportunity to think about the joke that he made

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Unban Essays / Re: [Unban Essay] How a non-racist remark can be marked racist

« on: March 25, 2012, 09:10:21 pm »

I disagree.  It's important because admins have not been enforcing bigotry.  George Washington was not banned for racism, he was banned for bigotry(*).

So.... we're enforcing a no-bigotry rule now?

I'm not saying they SHOULDN'T smack down all forms of bigotry, but that means laying the 500-word essay ban on everyone who uses words like "retard", "my old friend" or talks about the people of any nation in a negative way.  (I doubt I would have to search hard to find plenty of examples of anti-American bigotry that have gone unpunished, so why the sudden crackdown on someone who said something about Mexico?)


(* - actually, saying that all Mexicans should be killed to stop the drug trade isn't even bigotry, really.  It's more like, I dunno, either a hyperbole or just a really extreme, bad idea.  Maybe we're banning hyperboles and bad ideas now.  I don't know.  I mean I am certainly a cheerful spokesman when it comes to banning people and I'm not real sure I'd miss George Washington, who I mainly think of in terms of him trolling the game at various times in the past, but I'm not on board with this particular ban.)

Racism is a type of bigotry, and afaik it's mostly left up to admin discretion what types of bigotry "count." I've seen mutes over homophobia and sexism before, and I'm sure there've been bans over the same and other types of bigotry. imo though, arguing this amounts to rules lawyering, which doesn't really get us anywhere. The real issue should be over whether admins judge potentially bigoted things in-context or in a vacuum. Obviously, if you were to just take what he said with no context at all, it would be extreme and bigoted to say the least, but in context it's pretty clearly not intended to be mean at all, just a (bad) joke.

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Unban Essays / Re: [Unban Essay] How a non-racist remark can be marked racist

« on: March 25, 2012, 08:47:24 pm »

The pedantry over whether it's bigotry or racism is really missing the point imo

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Unban Essays / Re: [Unban Essay] How a non-racist remark can be marked racist

« on: March 25, 2012, 08:43:11 pm »

How about kicking me every time I tried to shoot a week or so ago, interrupting my attack animation? I then turned around, drew an arrow in frustration and pointed it at you to give you the hint "Stop kicking me" and then accidently released (meant to hit RMB then release LMB, and ended up doing it the other way around) and blew you away. Still not sorry for that, but I sure as hell remember it. I remember a lot of complaints on TS about you griefing the entire server that night.

Interrupting my attack animations is what I call trolling.

You were aiming at the last guy alive on the enemy team, who was currently getting ganged by at least 2 people on our team with more on the way. If that's enough to troll the entire server, then I really don't know what to say. I was just fucking around, it's not as if the situation was super serious and I cost us the round.

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Unban Essays / Re: [Unban Essay] How a non-racist remark can be marked racist

« on: March 25, 2012, 08:35:51 pm »

Oh look, his buddy troll.

Name a time I've trolled anyone over anything in the past month I've been back. Just wearing the FF tags doesn't automatically make me a huge troll, though I really don't take issue with people poking fun at and talking shit to some of the more thin-skinned people who play this game.

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Unban Essays / Re: [Unban Essay] How a non-racist remark can be marked racist

« on: March 25, 2012, 08:22:40 pm »

In context, what George said was pretty clearly meant as a joke, and you would have to be ridiculously thin-skinned to take it as anything other than that.

For the record, George has 8 bans, 5 of them this year alone.

Just an FYI.

If you want to permaban for past history then permaban him for past history, stop thinking up ridiculous excuses

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Faction Halls / Re: CHAOS - War is Hell (NA Faction)

« on: March 20, 2012, 06:18:54 am »

sup, i've been kinda interested in rolling with a bigger group on crpg lately and maybe checking out strat, me and sauce were talkin about it today and he said i could go ahead and post up an app here so uh, here it is. if y'all do let me join i would like to keep the FF tags as well though

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Closed Requests / Re: [Unban Request] FF_GeorgeWashington

« on: March 18, 2012, 02:38:02 am »

He wasn't muted or warned to stop saying shit in admin chat and he wasn't breaking any rules by giving his opinions about an admin in I chat unless you count however many few sentences he gave as "chat abuse". What he said is not banworthy at all, it's barely trolling and Grannpappy is being a huge babby about it. Say what you want about this being because of his "track record" but thats just a good excuse to abuse your powers on someone who didn't break any rules at this point but has done before.

The irony in George Washington getting banned for speaking his mind against a tyrant is not lost to me, history is repeating itself and soon a revolution will form, a republic with elected admins liberty and free speech, a constitution preventing admin abuse and transparency of bans, a flag of red, white and blue, a land where every man can make a living on the multiplier. And this land will be called.. America.


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