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Events & Tournaments / Re: DTV Tournament: HELP REQUIRED

« on: April 26, 2016, 01:32:47 am »

  Finally!! The tournament I've been waiting for!

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Idk, I'd strongly advocate for it being hardcore old-school dtv... open village map(s), no cav, no exploiting the maps to keep things fair... just straight up S-keying to victory. The truest test of DTV skill. And I'd suggest not including the bonus for killing the named bots, would just cause teams to fight amongst themselves (although I guess that might be a good thing... weed out the weak teams from the strong ones).

And might I suggest the rewards be something along the lines of:

Tristan_of_Erzoth, The ultimate cock blocker has entered the battlefield!
Tristan_of_Erzoth, Calradia's most effective chastity belt has entered the battlefield!
Tristan_of_Erzoth, The poonanny protector has entered the battlefield!

I respect your opinion Jona, but personally, I love exploiting maps and using cav.  I do think we should limit Cav to 1, but knowing how to exploit maps takes more skill and collaboration than people think.  S-keying is good, but a lot more riskier, no matter how skilled you and your team are.  People don't realize that there is a danger to pulling or kiting bots...once the anchor dies, the mob is unleashed and even more difficult to defeat. 

Title Rewards are a brilliant idea!

Also, let's not be afraid to use maps that have ballistas!

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Announcements / Re: 0.4.5.0

« on: March 14, 2016, 08:02:37 pm »

My MW Bow was nerfed (4-2=2 difficulty).  If there won't be a patch to fix this, can I get my looms back?

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General Discussion / Re: What's wrong with Archery After patch??

« on: February 24, 2016, 03:40:37 am »

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There certainly are solutions that I already tried to explain to Tydeus multiple times but apparently rolling a dice when it comes to stats is more fun.

1. Lower the missile speed for bows/xbows to a point where hitting shots consistently over medium range is difficult but not impossible:
- Number of "casual" ranged players would drop, are forced to become better or quit the class, leaving only dedicated ranged players at the servers.
- Ranged would not be able to shoot inf/cav across the entire map because of heavy arcing projectiles
- People decent enough at anticipating/reacting to incoming projectiles would actually have the time to react
- The amount of teamhits would presumably drop immensly since you can lob missiles over your own troops instead of trying the shoot through the gaps between them

2. Remove kiting via a dedicated mechanic and remove workarounds like the artificially increased ammo and weapon weight where it hurts melee capabilities. This could be done by, depending on what the engine allows for:
- Prolonging the weapon switch animation when pulling out a ranged weapon
- Decreasing the walkspeed when aiming/drawing a ranged weapon
- Decreasing the players maximum turnrate ( as it is with melee weapons ) with aimed/drawn ranged weapons to a point where normal aiming is not affected but those "run away and 180 turn quickshots" are not possible anymore
- Prevent people that carry ranged weaponry in any slot from reaching sprint speed ( not walk speed ). <- That way player acceleration - which matters greatly in terms of footwork - is not impeded in any way, yet ranged that chooses to run away indefinitely can be cought even by average ath melee builds.

With kiting eliminated and quivers and ranged weapon weight consequently reverted to a more realistic value:
- Ranged players would have more incentive only option is to fight in melee instead of running away or even implenting some PS in their builds instead of going full ath to not be outrun by a plate crutcher.
- Ranged payers could stand their ground in melee as well as defend from cav instead of constantly being dependant on melee acting as babysitters.

3. As compensation for the loss of missile speed, buff damage to point where high damage/weapon combos like a 33/18 longbower really make a difference.
- Playing ranged would be vastly more of a rewarding experience if the player posseses the skill to cope with the slow missiles instead of spamming some guy 3 times in the face with a lazer bow where the skill ceiling of your class is basically limited by the amount of headshots your target survives.

4. Remove damage drop off over range. It may not be realistic but in terms of gamebalance it helps nobody
- The problem of ranged dealing fucktons of damage for easy close-range shots and negligible damage for really hard long-range shots would disappear.
- Ranged damage would be far easier to balance with another variable out of the way.

5. Lastly, ease up on the armour restrictions a bit
- The build restrictions, especially for archers are severe enough and will not allow for a highPS/highWPF combination as long as you want to have at least decent ranged capabilities. The armor weight multipliers like for the gloves, which count at a factor of a whooping 6x is just way over the top for a class that already needs the highest skillpoint and attribute dedication of all the ranged classes. Archers shouldnt be tanky of course, but maybe being able to put on enough armour to at least survive one more swing would be nice.

In the end, ranged would be harder which equals less ranged on the server but also more rewarding to those who can handle the class. Melees: happy // Ranged: happy
The removal of kiting would mean no annoying ranged-runners anymore who are just waiting to turn around and shoot as soon as you break off your persuit but rather ranged that has capability and incentive to pull out their melee weapons. Melees: happy // Ranged: Well, sorry Artem and Vesselow but I guess most will be happy
Lower number of ranged + slower missiles means that actively dodging projectiles would portray a matter of playerskill and awareness instead of the current situation, mostly luck. Melees: happy // Ranged: happy

So what the hell are you waiting for Dupre/Balance team ? Do you want to keep this nerf buff nerf buff nerf cycle going for the rest of eternity ? Fiddling with the stats WILL NOT FIX this issue in an acceptable way for both parties, even if you proceed this way for another 5 years.

All of this only works of course if the melee lobby is able burry the hatchet just for this one single time and approves certain ranged buffs which would be a non-optional compensation for the types of nerfs listed here. I am not really expecting much cooperation but then again, I cannot imagine you 2h and pole heroes like to be range raped either everytime the balance team decides to give ranged some stats a "tad" too good.

Nice critical thinking about archer balancing.  I do have a couple of criticisms tho:
Instead of lowering missile speed for all bows, lower accuracy for high-dmg bows (Givem FAT Reticles!)  It only makes sense that the harder back you pull a bow, the less able you are to aim it precisely.
Who says archer kitery is bad?  If melee wants to wear heavy armor that slows them down or not put pts in ath, that's their problem.  I mean, archers shouldn't be running circles, but just enough that if they play smart, they can stay one step ahead.  I personally don't do it cuz I get dizzy, but I can give props to those who do.

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General Discussion / Re: [Feedback] Archery / Xbow feedback thread

« on: February 20, 2016, 03:31:11 am »

Archer and Arbalester:
Review:

Archer: 24/21 8PD wpf archery 170
Can't tell difference for accuracy,
Dmg for my MW Bow (name pre-patch) is noticeably lower...the difficulty was reduced from 4 to 2?? My MW Tatar is now better quality...and yet the Bow still takes 2 slots?

Arbalester: 18/30, wpf xbow 170
Pre-patch my Arb's accuracy was terrible.  Now? No idea, don't want to respec and lose xp (my main).
Crossbows take a ridiculous amount of time to load, don't seem to do much dmg, but accuracy is better.

Suggestions:

Archery:
Please fix MW Bow's stats:  I'd like it to be stronger than the 1-slotters, but faster loading (slightly less damaging) than the Stronger Long Bows.  Don't forget, difficulty factors in max PD (Difficulty of bow + 4)

Crossbows:
More Damage pls, less loading time.  If I'm taking a minute to load, I'd like my shots to count.   Don't mind raising the difficulty a bit for all xbows, but 6 pts is too much, so suddenly...I'm thinking 3.  I'd gladly make the exchange for more accuracy. 

Imo, the xbows dmg/loading speed should be proportional to bows dmg/loading speed.  Accuracy + projectile speed should be proportional to loading speed for all range weapons, with a parabolic effect on archery, ofc.

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Announcements / Re: 0.4.5.0

« on: February 19, 2016, 04:03:37 am »

My Arbalester is my main...can I get a free respec? It'll take a week just to switch my main out...

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Announcements / Re: 0.4.4.9

« on: February 17, 2016, 07:06:07 am »

Xbow class is unplayable now... afraid to try archer.  Loading for crossbows and lower are incredibly long, stats for damage are just..... NO.  Do you want us to camp??  Baby steps ppl, not leaps.

EDIT:

xbow are still wip atm, working on it

Thank God

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cRPG Technical problems / Unable to Connect to Server

« on: February 13, 2016, 03:08:32 am »

Servers are down...pls update us admins...

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General Discussion / Re: End this ranged malaria

« on: February 09, 2016, 10:09:45 pm »

Ranged has their own headaches...we have to be strategic in our positions and what shots to take.  Our number of arrows/bolts have been decreased, the weight of them affects our speed more.  Loading an arb takes like 7 seconds, plenty of time to charge, and (efficient) archer armor only takes 1-2 hits, 3 hits max.

Don't want to get shot? Dance a little or qft.

Some of us already don't really need reticle, as I always watch where my arrows land.

Really? I can't see far enough for most of my shots... I just know I got a hit from the tell-tale sound.  I think I can still do plenty of damage without the reticle, it'd be a nice challenge.

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Beginner's Help and Guides / Re: Weapon Difficulty and PS

« on: February 06, 2016, 10:30:31 pm »

Thank you for your quick and punctilious responses guys, yet another reason to + this community.  This helps to confirm my presumptions.  Couple of comments:

- 10 wpf is equal to 1.5% damage. You have a 15% damage penalty at 0 wpf compared to base weapon damage. At 100 wpf there is no penalty or bonus to damage.

I think I can live with a 15% penalty as an archer, I'll just get another shot in or hold til the cavalry shows.

2)how u spin- if u spinning like a whore wpf is not so important coz damage output is made from spin/attack release

It makes sense that it would have an effect, but I don't see the spin factor in the formula Utrakil offered:

hold_bonus * (WPF*0.01*0.15+0.85)*(power_strike*0.08+1.0)+strength/5.0

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Beginner's Help and Guides / Weapon Difficulty and PS

« on: February 06, 2016, 05:07:15 am »

For bows, the max PD is determined by +4 skill points above the difficulty of the bow you're using.  For example, my bow is lvl 4 difficulty, so the most PD I should bother getting is 8 pts.

Does this translate to 1h or 2h?  I have a lvl 7 difficulty mace, is there a PS skill point amount at which the damage doesn't increase?

Another question: is PS limited by wpf?  Will 10 PS work if I have 0 wpf?

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Announcements / Re: 0.4.4.0

« on: February 03, 2016, 09:29:41 am »

ty for your dedication Matt, Rico and Dupre!

I hope this gets siege going again.

btw, can I thrust with my spiral mace now?  (I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere...)

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Events & Tournaments / Re: A Final Skirmish

« on: January 12, 2016, 08:33:23 am »

5:00 EST? That's 2:00 PST, too early for me   Even 7est is too early.

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General Discussion / Re: 24 hour Heirloom point flash sale is back!

« on: January 12, 2016, 06:49:45 am »

http://c-rpg.net/index.php?page=marketplacetrade&id=775585

I'll take 3 lp's, hold the salt.

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Events & Tournaments / Re: 3 v 3 Tournament

« on: October 26, 2015, 05:38:50 am »

Please place xp and gold on these characters:

Wicked_Blank: Wix_the_Engineer   8m xp
Virgin_STF:Not_so_Innocent_Virgin  8m xp
Furry_Blank: Sexy_Furry                 8m xp
sJimmy_Blank:TBA


Thanks for hosting Jay!

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Events & Tournaments / Re: 3 v 3 Tournament

« on: October 23, 2015, 08:36:58 am »

Team name: Shooting Blanks
Team tag: Blank
Team Leader: Wicked_Blank
Names of team members: Wicked_Blank, Furry_Blank, sJimmy_Blank