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General Off Topic / Re: Moral epistemology and moral ontology
« on: November 13, 2013, 04:59:34 pm »
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Ultimate hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy.
Btw, is there any medieval themed books you guys could recommend?
I don't believe in completely objective morality no.
However I don't think something as severe as killing is just a matter of opinion.
I believe our only real(though not exactly objective) moral compass is empathy with the combination of rational thought.
For the large part most of our important moral laws are already based on that(for example killing, raping and other forms of violence).
You'd have hard time finding a person who thinks that killing in its very self is alright, some people think it's OK if you kill for a
good reason(War, execution of mass murderer, self defense), but I'd argue that's for the large part because of suppressed empathy(Because of feelings of revenge,
hate or a forced down dogma among other reasons). Institutions where empathy doesn't serve a purpose can vary from military where feeling empathy for your
enemies is most likely not going to help you win a fight - to prison where showing empathy can be seen as a sign of weakness, which can warrant you a lot of trouble
in that environment. Also some ideologies, religions and cultures can portray some class of people as inferior or evil, and can hammer empathy for that
group of people out of the their members by growing them into the ideology or suppressing rational thought with various forms of propaganda and brainwashing.
So even if you cannot judge people for not doing the "right" thing(Because there is no definitive right and wrong),
you can judge them for not using empathy or suppressing it.
I'd say the more minor and more artifical moral rules though, like sexual age of consent, are more a matter of public opinion.
Does that make sense to anyone?
How is it a separate discussion? Patriotism is as stupid as any other tribal identification. If anything it's the most inclusive one we have, at the moment. Ethnicity, religion and politics are far more restrictive, in decreasing order, but it is often a mix of all 4 anyways.
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